She was going to leave

Alicia Bartholomew, 26, is accused of shooting her husband James Bartholomew, 29, in the back about 7:30 pm on Friday. He was taken to a hospital for treatment. Police say a single shot was fired and hit Bartholomew in the spine. Doctors fear he may be paralysed.

It seems simple, but alas life is never simple. Alicia Bartholomew’s family says that is only a part of the story.

In court last Tues. Alicia Bartholomew said that she was also a victim. A victim of an abusive husband. Her mother has told media that Alicia and James Bartholomew were married for 10 years. And that 10 years of abuse is what led to the shooting of Bartholomew in the back.  

“I knew she would shoot him in the back…so she wouldn’t have to face him…she still loved him.”

Alicia Bartholomew appeared in court by video link and told the court that she had tried to leave her husband recently. She told the court that she had reached out

“I was trying to to get out of the house, I just had talked to a Safe House lady trying to get out of the house.”

The Commonwealth’s Attorney has said the prior abuse allegations are known and are being investigated.

According to all reports, the two were at a local American Legion when witnesses say a physical argument developed in the parking lot. The two left there and apparently they went back to their apartment. There it is alleged they were each burning some items belonging to the other outside the complex.

According to a police report:

“The parties began to burn each other’s clothing in the courtyard of the complex and the dispute continued back into the apartment where the perpetrator smashed some electronic equipment and a computer belonging to the victim,” “The victim at some point produced a handgun but did not use it. He laid the handgun down, and the perpetrator picked up the weapon and shot the victim in the arm.”

Alicia Bartholomew’s mother has said that Alicia was finally standing up for herself.

James Bartholomew was taken to the hospital where he is reported to be in serious condition. Alicia Bartholomew has been given a $25,000 cash bond and ordered to stay away from her husband, family is trying to raise the money and trying to find her an attorney.

The couple’s 3 children- ages 5 years, 2 years, and 2 months were in their apartment at the time and were not harmed.

Alicia Bartholomew has been arrested and charged with first degree assault.

I don’t know if the allegations about James Bartholomew are true or not. I did a quick search of the newspaper archives to see if the names showed up, but got nothing. However, many times old news articles don’t get archived in a way that is searchable by search engine or they just go away. And many domestic violence reports and even arrests don’t make the news. Police are still investigating so more info could come out later.

In making a decision to stay or leave an abusive relationship, most people consider whether it is more dangerous for them to stay or leave. Some consider the well being of the children. But most don’t stop to think- what happens if they are put in the position of deadly force to defend themselves…. or what happens if it gets to the point where they break?

There is often a very fine line drawn on what is self defense. And though the ‘battered women’s syndrome’ is now accepted by the court, proving the accused suffered from it and that it led to the violence can be very difficult to do. So in making the decision, this should always be considered.

If a decision is made to leave, it is important to reach out to a domestic violence agency to develop a safety plan, and to follow through on the plan. And to not talk about it to anyone. Not the spouse or partner or even friends. Once in a place of safety, others can be notified.



  1. Becky J said,

    February 27, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Every October in my town we have a candle light vigil honoring those killed from domestic violent relationships. 100% of the silent victim cut outs were killed while in the process of leaving the relationship, they had left completely, and when they returned to home or wherever the abuser lived to pick up belongings or picking up or dropping off children and it was at that time the victims were murdered. Leaving is definatly the most dangerous time im a victims life, another extremely dangerous time is after a child is born. So ur advice on safety planning and getting into the safe house before letting anyone know is a smart plan, it will ensure ur own safety as well as those around u. and regardless of the belongings left behind its not wise to return to get them unless u have a court order and are accompanied by a police officer or sheriff, otherwise those are material things and are replaceable, unlike ur life.

  2. Michelle said,

    February 27, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    I have known James longer than he and Alicia have been together. He and I were close friends growing up and it has been very well known that most of Alicia’s family is crazy and have been in trouble with the law at some point, in some way. No one is perfect and I won’t begin to claim James to be, but James and I have been very close and he NEVER even attempted to be mean or ugly to me. For him to be considered abusive it’s outragious. I know that he has been through a lot and seen a lot over the years and those things are strong enough to change any man, but he loved Alicia and their children very much.

    It hasn’t been that long ago that her family started rumors in North Carolina about him, only to have Alicia deny that they were true. I PERSONALLY heard her say that the rumors were untrue and her family was just out to get James, for whatever reason. Those rumors also revolved around him being abusive.

    Alicia has had AMPLE opportunity to leave – like when he was deployed to war. So, instead of leaving an abusive husband when he wasn’t around to stop her, she waits to shoot him, in the back, no doubt, after having not one, not even two, but three children with him. After moving from city to city to remain with him.

    James and Alicia have had a rough marriage, just with him being in the military was rough, and I respect anyone that can make those marriages work. He was also in the sheriff’s department, which was stressful as well. But, there were other ways. Yes, James may have argued about whether or not she could leave and take his children, but that’s only natural from a loving father. But, there was NO CALL to shoot him in the back!

    I find ALL of this hard to fathom. A man with his background, first in fire and ems, then military, and later to law enforcement, only to return to the military. He worked very hard all these years, allowing Alicia to stay home and be a mother to his children when possible, rather than finding work outside the home.

    I know there are plenty of cases in the world where there is abuse in the home, but most of the time, it’s VERY WELL KNOWN amongst everyone around them. Did the neighbors report hearing them fight all the time, or see her or their children with bruises? Again, where is the evidence to support her claims? Sure, people change over time. I can see where he could have, but I never saw where he did.

    It’s unfortunate that James is now lying in a hospital, holding on to life by threads. Even IF he lives, he will NEVER be the same. If he is in fact paralyzed, he will never be able to get out in the yard and run with his kids, hold or hug his children, or fight a fire, or rescue a person in distress, or live a life of service as he has for so many years. What about that? He’s lying in the hospital while Alicia and her family make remarks to the media without any proof, but he can’t even defend himself. Where is the justice in that?

    I also believe that you are “innocent until proven guilty” so unless, or until, someone finds concrete evidence to support her claims, I don’t think that it should be assumed by ANYONE that James was abusive.

    James, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this time. I hope, for your children’s sake, that they are safe and well take care of. I also pray that you recover, completely, and are able to STAND UP and fight for what you believe. I believe you are one of the strongest people I have ever met and I know that you have pulled through more than this. You can do it again! You have friends and family here in North Carolina that support you and wish you a speedy recovery! We love you!

  3. THE AUNT OF ALICIA "DEE'" said,

    February 27, 2007 at 4:10 pm

    Im Alicia’s aunt in Maryland I have been knowing that something like this would happen. I just thought it would be Alicia dead or in the hospital. When my mom called to tell me the news about Alicia I thought she was going to tell me she was hurt very bad. I’ve been talking and listening to my niece tell me every thing that was going on in her marriage she ask me for help repeatly and beg me to come take her. She also warn me that James would come for her and kids and that he has several guns that he has put to her head several and told her if she left he would kill her and who ever came to help her. I was in a place where i wanted to help her so bad and when i think about it i should have taken that chance but i have 4 kids myself. There were times that she call me in tears saying he hit me, hurt my hand held a gun to me so much more that what i should say. I KNOW that she has always been there for her kids and wanted her marriage to work but how can it if james was always going to bars getting drunk, hitting his wife, sometimes even his kids, some much I cant say on the computer. I know that GOD only lets things happen for a reason and it was meant to wake people up and realize that. Alicia needed help and My sister Mary, my mom, which has been threaten by james, my brother in law, and myself could not do any thing to help but try to get safe houses and others to help the only way Alicia could think is to do it this way she is just a 90 pound little woman has been beaten, put down, locked in a house no car sometimes, rapped given a sexally disease from husband because he likes to have alot of partners. It makes me sick to think about. Alicia has stayed a went every where husband went the FACT is because she was forced or she would die or she couldnt have her kids. And when he went for war that he didnt even fight in he told her he had someone watching her if she left. when he did leave she was working for a period of time but had to stop because she had to stay with the kids . he would give her money and bills not paid and no food in the house. There is so much that people dont know about I hope that GOD can see that Alicia dont have to suffer anymore of her life she can be happy and free of beatings and hiitings and fighting and let her kids have a good life. Maybe one day she can call me and not be telling me at 3 in the morning she has blood on her and james hit her and glass is on the floor and he was drunk an came with his girlfriend, I want to hear say IM OKAY TONIGHT!!!!!!

  4. Tonya said,

    February 27, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    For the people that are praying for James. You say that James has been a good person? Do you think husbands that beat and cheat on their wife is a good person? Do you think that someone that tourchers little animals just for fun is a good person? Well I have known James k. Bartholomew for over 12 years. We went to school together. He tied a rope around a possums neck and drug it from his bike until it died. He would catch animals in his little traps and then tourcher them. He would paint his face with army paint at his house when he was about 23 years old and would run around the yard like a crazy person. He used to say that if his wife wore diapers it would turn him on. (that’s a sick person) James and Alicia lived with me before they got married. I know things about him and that is why he does not like me. And Alicia”s family has never been in trouble by the law. I used to think that James was good person when I first met him but after he cut my cat’s throat with a knife, I kicked him out. I saw him with my own eyes and couldn’t beleive what I was seeing. He laughed about it.. God knows the truth about him and that is what matters. You people that are praying for James will soon see the truth about him.

  5. KatK said,

    February 27, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    Tonya, have you spoken to the investigators, (or Alicia’s attorney) about what you know? Maybe you should…

  6. Friend said,

    February 27, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    The reason James Bartholomew’s parents have not talked to reporters is because they have known about the abuse. They thought that Alicia and James should get counceling. Of course they aren’t going to say anything to get their son in trouble. James has always hid behind his jobs.

  7. Vidalia11 said,

    February 27, 2007 at 7:21 pm

    “Workers at a nearby American Legion said the couple physically fought in the their parking lot earlier in the evening.

    Then the pair apparently went back to their apartment and burned each other’s possessions, before the shot rang out.

    Bartholomew’s mother said her daughter finally was standing up for herself. ”

    This sounds more like two extremely infantile people acting out. I hope both of them get appropriate help.

  8. KatK said,

    February 27, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    Vidalia11, what you don’t grasp, what many don’t comprehend is that domestic abuse often *isn’t* one sided. There is a main aggressor, yes, but the abusee can be violent too. When you are pushed well beyond the limits of toleration, when you don’t know what is black or white and which way up is, much less who your true self is, you can snap and lash out. This contributes to the cycle, until maybe a bed is set aflame, or a skull is broken. Unless the cycle can be broken. It’s a twisted beast, that feeds itself via tit for tat, blame, guilt, and “I’ll do better, I promise”. In short, pain begets pain, and sometimes the hurt lash out too.

  9. Friend said,

    February 27, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    Someone said that James loves his children with all his heart and is a good father, but how can a father beat the mother of their child. How could a father want their child aborted?

  10. Tonya said,

    February 28, 2007 at 4:33 am

    Alicia stayed with James for so long because she thought that he would change. She was commited to her marriage and loved James with all of her heart. She always tried to make him happy and was proud of her husbands accomplishments. She put up with him lying and cheating and hitting her just to try to make her marriage work for her children. She tried to hide the way that she was being treated until about a year ago. She wanted to leave James without fighting. He always threatened her and her family. He would not let her talk to her family or even visit them. Its very sad that after someone is treated the way Alicia has been treated she is the one locked up. Alicia stayed at home with her children because she didn’t want to leave her children with a bunch of strangers. They moved there from North Carolina and she didn’t know anyone. Why would you drop your kids off somewhere and not know the people? Money was never more important than her children. She had a good job in North Carolina and had to quit so that she could go with her husband. When they moved to Kentucky, that is when James got worse.I don’t understand why anyone did’t do something when they saw a 90 pound woman fighting with a 200 pound man. Why didn’t someone call the police then? They had been fighting all afternoon and no one attempted to help Alicia.She kept trying to get to the phone to call the police and he would take the phone from her. I guess Alicia felt at the time that if she didn’t do something ,that something really bad was going to happen to her. She has always been a very caring person and always friendly with everyone. James got another woman pregnant while Alicia was pregnant and made the girl get an abortion to keep him from getting in trouble with the military. And still Alicia stood by her husband. That to me would be a very commited wife. I would not put up with it. And I had never seen James playing with his children. He has always been too busy with work or out at the bars with his so called friends. Then he would come home at 5 and 6 in the morning and sleep. I have witnessed his tempers and strange behaviors. He may seem really nice and can be at times but is very sneaky and evil at other times. I know for a fact because they lived with me for almost a year. I called the police on James when he killed my daughter”s cat. He knew that I was and while I was on the phone he did something with my cat and we couldn’t find the cat, so I never had proof of that except that my cat was missing. I am christian and believe in forgiveness but it has been really hard. I know alot about James and so he has threatened me and my family. If he comes back to North Carolina I am getting a restraining order against him. Believe it or not he is a dangerous person. I hope that his parents tell the truth about him beating Alicia in front of her babies. Its not right at all.

  11. THE AUNT OF ALICIA "DEE'" said,

    February 28, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    im wondering is james family going to speak up they are ashamed of what their son has done. They are hiding from the press. They say they are religious people maybe thats why they just cant say the truth that what they have seen their son james do to Alicia. I know they know alot about Alicias abuse because Alicia told me that they see it and dont do anything the mother just told her to stick with it he would changed the dad said to leave. But James would find you and hurt u bad or may kill you. They even gave her their cell phone just in case of something like this happening because james didnot want alicia to have a phone or friends or family nothing he wouldnt let no body see or talk with her for a long time. James’s family new that and thats to why they gave her a cell phone. Alicias family didnot hear from her or see her for over a year thinking that something was wrong everyday it was but we know now I think God that Her family can see her now even if it is behind a glass, Do youknow what it is like for a mother not to see daughter or talk to for so long and when that time comes it is behind a glass not being able to hug her or touch her so she knows that some does care for her. Her mother has been wanting to hug her daughter for so long she has been crying wishing that this will finish and one day HOPEFULLY she will hug her neck and say I LOVE YOU……….

  12. CANDACE said,

    February 28, 2007 at 4:20 pm


  13. NC CO-WORKER said,

    February 28, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    I hope James will turn out ok and will recover from his injury BUT I also know Alicia because I worked with her for 2 1/2 years and I know she would not hurt a fly. I have heard her talk about her relationship with James and she loves him and their children, however she also spoke of how he treated her and it wsa NOT like a woman, wife and mother should be treated…

  14. NC CO-WORKER said,

    February 28, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    By the way…Alicia’s family is not crazy. They may not have much money or be able to afford a lot but just because of the way they look, where they live or how they dress does not at all make them crazy. Alicia’s parents are very nice people…
    May God be with both families!!!!

  15. ALICIA"S SISTER said,

    February 28, 2007 at 9:56 pm


  16. Skye and Angel said,

    March 1, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    We dont know Alicia that well because we never get to see her or talk to her, but we do know that she is a loving person! she would do anything to make her kids happy! We do know that she has been throw some BAD times and good times! We do know that James beats her! We thought it would be Alicia in the hospital not James! Alicia would NEVER hurt someone just to hurt them! She wouldn’t even kill a little bug on the floor! We hate that it had to end like this! (Alicia in jail and James in the hospital)



  17. PL DeCoteau said,

    March 1, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    I do not blame Alishia for what happened. If someone would have helped the poor girl sooner it would have never come to this. I am praying for her and her children and her family. Hurry home alishia and bring those babies. Love, Paula

  18. A TEAR FOR ALICIA said,

    March 2, 2007 at 2:42 am




  19. ALICIA"S SISTER said,

    March 2, 2007 at 6:52 pm


  20. miriam said,

    March 2, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    What’s this now? Hunting season for husbands has been opened? Shoot your husband in the back, claim abuse later? Assassinate first, follow up with character assassination? Victim bashing, always the best defense?

    To ALICIA’S SISTER: writing your message in capitals means SHOUTING — and, where I live, a lot of people have been told in their childhood shouting means that you’re dead wrong and just wanting to make up in volume what your message is lacking in truth.

    I know nothing about this case but what I’ve read here, but “Alicia’s sister” and “Alicia’s aunt” give me the impression that the person who claimed Alicia’s family was crazy may know what she’s about. “She couldn’t harm a fly” — however, she could shoot her husband in the back? Pray God that what’s going on here isn’t what Martha Stout calls “the pity play”.

  21. March 3, 2007 at 12:34 am

    Ok, I figure each side has gotten some shots in.
    I do have some rules:
    Posts are welcome to pass information, express personal feelings etc.
    No attacking other posters
    Keep it civil
    No accusations except for first hand witness accounts, or backed by links from newspaper accounts or court records- and commenters alone have sole responsibility for any comments made.
    I can and often do remove posts or ban from the site- at my whim only, and my decisions are final.

    I can tell you from experience- neither side will get justice here- that happens in court. I reccommend that if you have 1 st hand accounts that you make contact with either the prosecutor or defense attorney. And neither side will convince the other through arguments here or elsewhere.

  22. March 3, 2007 at 2:23 am

    Other than the stated allegations, I don’t know if there was or was not previous abuse. But if you have any question or any doubts about things you may have seen or heard, this might help.

  23. Becky J said,

    March 3, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    people believe that an abuser has to be a beligerant person, the one that calls the shots, yells and screams even in public places, a drug abuser etc….but in reality an abuser can be a deacon in a churce, soft spoken, shows total and complete dedication to his partner, always there to pick her/him up at the front door at work “just so she/he can get into a warm car” a great father/mother figure etc…those are the most dangerous abusers because no matter what the victim says about being abused she looks like the “crazy” regardless of how well you “know” a person who is being abused/ or abusing, you really dont, thats part of the game that abusers play. “how could he/she do that, he/she is the pastor at my church” for example…….and that makes them all more powerful and at higher risk of murdering the victim, because no one will believer the victim….just a few facts i thought i would share.

  24. FRIEND said,

    March 3, 2007 at 1:57 pm


  25. Alex said,

    March 3, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    I have just posted 2 photos and hopefully the skeptical ones, can view the love coming from this man to his wife and children, in the Flicker poster blog, and please note this woman is NOT Alicia. But the man IS Alicia’s husband overseas protecting our country.

  26. NC Cares said,

    March 3, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    I hope that all turns out well for you. No one should have to live that way! I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

  27. Jessica Sechrist-Warren said,

    March 4, 2007 at 1:15 am

    Wow! This has been alot to take in. Alicia is my cousin and I know for a fact about the abusive relationship that she has lived with for many years. I know she was scared of him and also very scared of what he was capable of doing to her children. I miss her so much! I knew she was making a mistake when she moved out of this state. I had some thoughts that James would not let her have contact with us here at home. I spent alot of time with Alicia. We grew up together and she was a very kind hearted person with lots of love. I never understood why she would live the way she was. She was terrified of him so she bowed down to him! I hope everything works out for her and the kids. It really hurts me to know that she has been pushed to this! Maybe this is what it will take for her to get away from this crazy man! I am praying for you Sweetheart! I love you and I can’t wait for you to get home. For the ASSES that said her family is “Crazy” you all can go to hell!!!
    I love you, Alicia and family!!!!

    Jessica, Tony, Debra, Danny, Jenny, Jamie

  28. KY Point of View said,

    March 4, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Thank you moderator for inserting alittle common sense.

    I don’t know the whole story and won’t go on and on about what I think happened. There were only two people in the room that were capable of this attack.

    If you have information, first hand that would help either side, please contact the local investigator. His name is Jim Moore. 859-356-3191

    Spreading rumors, hearsay and either party bashing isn’t helping. For what ever reason this happened, the truth will come out in court.

    Bottom line, a man was shot. His wife admits to doing it. Those are the only actual facts to date. Everything else he nothing more than hearsay.

  29. KY Point of View said,

    March 4, 2007 at 12:32 pm

    Everything else IS nothing more than hearsay.

  30. NC Friends said,

    March 4, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    I know that both sides are trying to protect the person they care about. But things like this happen sometimes. I know the truth will come out in court. When it does you all will see. We do have proof that Alicia was abused and it WILL be shown in court. I know that some people on here think that James is a good person but he does need help. I know that you may think I don’t know what i’m talking about but I know alot about this case. Alicia’s family is not trying to start rumors about James. I know that the things said are bad things and things you can’t believe but they are true. But like I said, the evidence will be presented in court.

  31. March 5, 2007 at 4:26 am

    I am removing the link, as there is no collaboration that the person shown is a girlfriend or a friend, and it involves a person not named in the case. If that is the evidence, send it to the attorneys.
    However, I do have to say- I have been cheated on and I believe most people have at one time or another, and I never thought of shooting.

  32. NC Friends said,

    March 5, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    Have you heard the story? She was was trying to leave because he had cheated on her and he beat her. The pictures are only showing that he does cheat. Do you want pictures of the bruses on her body? I know that you have no idea about this case as most. You don’t matter anyway. The judge will know that he abused her and is an adulter.And yea she didn’t shoot him because he cheated. She shot him because he beat her and controlled her life and would’nt let her leave.Did the person that cheated on you threaten you and your friends and family if you left? Did they cut your tires on your car? I don’t think so. Police did not help even though they were called over and over. Oh well I don’t know why I trying to explain it to complete morrons anyway.

  33. Alex said,

    March 5, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    To the one who had been cheated on maybe you’re an unconventional, liberal person, who doesn’t feel betrayal, or emotional pain. Cheating is just a mere culmination of the events that led up to her breaking point. I don’t know about you, but I don’t normally kiss MY friends with a liplock…HELLO!!!

  34. KatK said,

    March 5, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    NC Friends, I know you are worried sick and hurting. However you are lashing out at someone who could offer you wisdom and insight and help you help your friend. The person who was cheated on is the person who owns this blog. She has a lot of insight into the dynamics of an abusive relationship, and you need to rethink being so rude towards her. You are not helping your friend’s case by doing so. No, we haven’t been in your friend’s shoes, but I’d wager the shoes I’ve worn are more than enough. I’m lucky I got out alive. Can you say the same? No? Yes? Don’t judge!

  35. The Aunt said,

    March 5, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    There are pictures that were exposed to have been taken in jail of Alicia the cuts on her knees of her being drug across the pavement by her hair the day this happened the bruises of his hands that choked her that day the marks on her face and arms that was from her husband that day. doctors that went in to help her the morning of the arrest we will see who gets the whole picture. Hopefully all the people who saw this will come forward including the the mother and father of james who seen things with there on eyes and told their son he needed help.

  36. friend said,

    March 5, 2007 at 5:56 pm

    We don’t want to be rude to anyone. It is just very frustrating that people don’t understand Alicia’s situation. I have never known anyone to go through what she has. I was very afraid for her life. I guess she was also that night. I do apologize for being rude. I feel that people are trying to protect the man that has hurt her all these years. If people only knew the truth. James does have good jobs and should be a person that does not do the things that he does, but you can’t judge a book by it’s cover. And again, I am very sorry for being rude.

  37. March 5, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    Yes, I have walked a short way of the distance that you say Alicia has walked. It did not go that far, and I did survive. And I made many of the same mistakes. So yes, I have some measure of understanding.
    But cheating is one of those things that many people are killed over. And while I personally don’t like cheating, I don’t believe that cheating deserves a death sentence.
    You say that Alicia was abused. I was not there, so I cannot say that. But if she was abused, going on about cheating distracts from what you say happened. It is something her attorney needs to know. But to offer it up to the public as an issue, it is just another motive.

  38. KatK said,

    March 7, 2007 at 1:05 am

    NC Friend, friend, The Aunt etc.: I know what you are saying, having seen what you are relating. I saw an acquaintance of mine be told to “wait for your turn there” while her abusive enormous brute of a boyfriend brought in a drunken floozy and took her back to her bedroom, to have sex with her on *HER* bed. (she was four feet eleven inches tall, he was six eight or so) Some abusers will use things like that as a weapon to further hurt, and as a way to make her stay submissive. If she raises a fit, then she needs another beating until she no longer resists anything at all he wants. I saw him break her down in this way. (Yes, I left soon after that because I didn’t what him thinking he had any chance of making me another notch, and I couldn’t stay around and not speak up either. I didn’t want to be in the middle of a blow up like that.) Still, to most people they only think “motive”. They don’t see how it can all be piled on top of everything else, the bruises, the guilt and not feeling good enough, and the fear that one day you will get AIDS or another STD from his philandering. It isn’t “just” jealousy in cases like that, it’s yet another way he “beats” her. I believe it’s very probable she feared for her life, and finally the dam broke and she defended herself. Really though, you don’t need to convince us all of these things, you need to be convincing her attorney to put you on the stand, or talking to specialists as outside witnesses to back up what she says. That is the best thing you can do for her.

  39. Aunt Lynn said,

    March 7, 2007 at 1:48 am

    James, a good person…. That is very questionable. From the short time i have been in person with him i could tell that he was a very sidistic person. In their house there would be holes in the cabinets from where he had gotten mad at her for no reason. Alicia was a kind-hearted woman who loved her kids and neglectful husband without regret. Alicia, my family loves you and wishes you the best of luck, bring those wonderful children back to North Carolina where they belong. Love You


  40. CuzBigPG said,

    March 7, 2007 at 2:00 am

    I’m going to have to agree with Jessica for the people that think Alicia’s family is crazy seriously GO TO HELL and as for the capital letters yes i am shouting and as for Michelle, how can you back up a angry man like that, did he knock you up too? That just seems to be the case. Can’t wait to see you Alicia you’re in my prayers see you soon

  41. KatK said,

    March 7, 2007 at 2:06 am

    CuzBigPG, I think for the most part you will find only sympathetic ears here. I know it must have been cathartic to type out those “telling off” words, but really for the most part the regular readers of this blog have great sympathy for battered women, and in many cases know what it’s like firsthand.

  42. CuzBigPG said,

    March 7, 2007 at 2:18 am

    Sorry to here you feel that way Kat. I just tried to set the record straight i was really growing tired of countless attemps to put down Alicia’s (and also my own) family. I feel a strong simpathy towards those that have been neglected or abused by their spouses. That is an act that i do not put up with, i can’t stand a wife beater. I’m sorry i may have offended you or anyone else except for those that tried to put down my family.

  43. KatK said,

    March 7, 2007 at 2:25 am

    I figure it must be pretty easy to lose sight of who the regulars at a place must be, when you are caught up in the middle of something like that. Just pointing out that many of the people here know what it’s like, may own the t-shirt, and even if they don’t are still sympathetic to what Alicia is going through. It must seem that “the world” is against her though, for so many to be so bristly and defensive. I can understand that, I am just letting you know you can be a bit more at ease here is all. *wink*

  44. Megs said,

    March 7, 2007 at 2:29 am

    OK PEOPLE!!! My husband and I are very close friends with James. Lets get some facts straight seeing how people believe what is on the news. I have been to the hospital to see him. 1. He was shot only once, it was in his back. 2. HE NEVER LAID A HAND ON HIS CRAZY WIFE. She was NOT with him burning ANYTHING at 5pm on friday and I know this b/c I was on the phone with him and he asked my husband and I to come to the legion and shot some darts. His X wife was also saying they were together that wednesday night before. NO, he was with me and some other friends at a concert till mid-night, we have pictures to prove it. People need to not believe the crap that comes out of her mouth, she is a crazy chick that deserves to be put away forever.

  45. March 7, 2007 at 3:10 am

    So Megs, are you saying that the unrelated witnesses at the bar who saw the fight and the witnesses at the apartment complex who saw the fire are all lying? What would be their motive? And you are also saying he married two allegedly “crazy” wives? His current and his ex? Did she accuse him of abuse also? When did he find out they were “crazy”? Before or after he married them?

  46. KatK said,

    March 7, 2007 at 3:46 am

    And was it more that his abuse of them made them begin to question their sanity, and in his bid to control them he began to chip away at their egos and make them think they were “crazy” instead? *eyebrow*

  47. March 7, 2007 at 4:17 am

    Now, now KatK. Don’t be judgemental. He probably had a pattern of only marrying “crazy” women.

  48. March 7, 2007 at 6:10 am

    Ok, some of you may have gotten the idea by now. You are all trying to help your friend or relative.
    One person makes an accusation about another’s family- that doesn’t make me believe that accusation- that makes me wonder about the person who would come in and say something about a person who is not accused of any crimes that have been mentioned.
    Another person comes in and makes claims of something that actually isn’t illegal. And tries to drag in another person who isn’t accused of a crime. I start wondering about who would do that, and I wonder if that is a motive.
    And whoever is posting those angry and sometimes hateful things, I start wondering if the person they are championing is like that.
    The fact is, people who regular abusers are sometimes nice people- outside the home. They may do great things. But not in the home. In the home they may be an abuser.
    The fact is, many people who commit crimes try to blame it on the other. Or they may say they are doing it for the children. Or they may say what a horrible person the other was.
    The fact is, no one ever truly knows what is in another’s mind and no one truly knows what another will do.
    Nice people do abuse, do lie and do kill.
    You are not going to convince each other, and you won’t convince me. And you are not helping who you are trying to help.
    Say nice things that you know about the people you love. Tell about the good things they did.
    But keep up the bashing and I close the comments. And if I do that you won’t be able to come here and post the trial info if it supports your point of view or post the verdict.

  49. Chasity said,

    March 7, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    Hi everyone, I have been reading all the blogs about this case since they were first posted. I can tell you this I am Alicia cousin and I believe you dont choose the side given by blood you choose the side thats RIGHT.
    I Believe her every word about James. I have been knowing about this abuse for years. I remember telling her to leave and she cried and said “its something no one could ever do as easy as saying it” everyone hopes the people they love will change. It makes alot harder when you are threated if you try to leave. BUt we all know in ur hearts what is right. God knows what he is doing. Instead of yall going head to head in typing match if you honestly dont know the stories please leave it alone. It only makes tempers flare. it not for entertainment purposes. My cousin is in jail and her husband shot we need to come together in open arms in this situation.. Alicia if youever read this (smile ) I love you! and I am sorry life has taken this road. I pray for you and your babies…
    I dont know if you remember this or not but when we were younger you and Tonya would come spend the night at my house with me and Leslie. We would play barbies and school and had sooooo much fun.. Dee would come over and play dress up and fix our hair(OMG with a whole bottle of hair spray) lol and the time our moms took us to the beach in a small truck and we broke down and stayed with some lady she made us fried bologna sandwichs. I could go on and on .. but one more thing I remember Tonya asked me with Leslie and Alicia staying there “who do you like more” my answer wasI like you but love to play with Alicia.. lol come on I was maybe 10years old .. if you asked me now I would say my heart could never be full without you both I love my PEACE cousins (smile with tear*). I would be fun but silly if all got together to rethink our earlier years…

  50. Alicia's sister said,

    March 7, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    I just pray that my little sister and her children make it back home safe and sound. I also hope that the judge can see the truth. Alicia and her children deserve a normal life with people that truly love them.

  51. Alicia's sister said,

    March 7, 2007 at 7:04 pm

    Thank you Katk. You seem like you know exactly what we are talking about. James has not only been hurting Alicia but her children are hurting and her family has been hurting because we have been dealing with him abusing her for so long. James threatened us (her family) and that is why she wouldn’t just leave. She was also afraid that he would try to take her babies. She told police but it was like they didn’t take her seriously. I think that they were thinking like alot of other people. They were thinking that there was no way that James was doing the things that she said. It was like she was screaming for help and there was no one to help.

  52. Chasity said,

    March 7, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    Meg I dont want to insult you or anything but when you use CAPITAL letters saying lets get the facts straight make sure you know what YOUR talking about He has only been married ONCE ……………

  53. KatK said,

    March 7, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    Did he have a long time girlfriend that could be counted as a common law wife? Should he actually have had to divorce her when they split up? I don’t know, I’m asking. Sometimes couples who have lived together and dated a long time find that they will actually have to divorce before they move on with their lives because of the common law marraige statutes in the state they live in.

  54. Chasity said,

    March 7, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    Katk I am not sure about him having a “common law wife” BUt I know that Alicia and James were married in the summer or fall of 1998 after Alicia graduated high school…. So if he did it was illegal we all know he cheated so him having “common law wife” I wouldnt be suprised…. But the issue here is his abuse really we should handle that fact then worry about the cheating affairs…..

  55. Alicia's sister said,

    March 7, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Alicia and James have been together since Alicia was about 16 years old. They got married in 1998. I can’t see how he was married to someone else. I went to school with James myself and never known of him dating anyone else except one girl and she found out that Alicia and James were dating and she told Alicia that he had threatened her with a knife one night. At the time we thought she was just a jealous x girlfriend. But now I know she was telling the truth. But if he was married before he got married to Alicia, he must have been very young. And also if you are married to someone, why would you be out with an X? And if you love your children, why would you be out all hours of the night away from them? Alicia never went out with friends. Although she never complained about it. Alicia loves to be with her kids. She feels that if she goes somewhere, she wants her children there.
    All of this has been really hard to deal with. You know someone is hurting someone that you love and you don’t know where to turn. You tell people and it don’t seem to help. I hate that it has come to this, but I am glad that my sister is not getting abused anymore. The children need to be with Alicia. No one loves those three babies as much as she does. Alicia is a good person.

  56. March 7, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    Sister, I know you love Alicia. And I know it is hard on a family, to know what is happening and not be able to do anything about what is happening. Because your sister is an adult, it was her marriage and her family and her decisions. But if you want to help your sister, you will make a list of all potential witnesses- such as any ex-gf’s, ex-wives, old friends, old witnesses etc. and make sure the defense is aware of them. You won’t bring them here, and provide notice of who is going to be talked to.
    You won’t bring the words here where they can be twisted into something else. Love your sister. But use what you know where it can help her.

  57. KatK said,

    March 8, 2007 at 12:33 am

    Do go to her attorney, tell *all* you know. That is the best way to help her now. We don’t need to know some of this, unless/until it comes out in court. Help her by going through the proper channels. She needs you now. Thoughts and prayers sent out to all of you.

  58. KY Point of View said,

    March 8, 2007 at 2:22 pm

    Meg was using the X as in soon to be. From what I have heard in the past several months, they were planning on divorcing as soon as the paternity of the latest baby was completed.

    I honestly don’t know the whole story, no one really does but James and Alicia. She was released from jail and is free to travel to NC until the trial. That is public record. Anything else is just talk.

    We are not going to help anyone in this forum by lashing out at each other. As I posted before, if you have first hand knowledge of information that would help either side, please contact the police or their attorneys.

    I do know Meg and that what she stated was accurate for Wednesday and Friday of that week. James was at a concert on Wednesday with a group of friends and he was at the Legion on Friday afternoon setting up for a fish fry. But, time lines have been known to be off and are not exact science.

    I am sadden more for the children and what they witnessed. The adults are capable of making their own decisions and choices, our children are not.

    The truth will come out at trial. These are felony charges and Alicia is looking at 20 to life unless the charges are modified. That is KY law. For whatever reason this event happened, tragic doesn’t begin to address the magnitude of the fallout.

    And yes, to respond to a prior post, I too have walked many a miles in abusive spouse shoes. I too own the T shirt.

  59. The Aunt said,

    March 8, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    The children did not witness anything Alicia always makes sure her kids are protected as much as she can that one reason she was scared to leave was for her kids…….now she is holding her kids and loving them more than ever thanking god that now she dont have to worry is james going to come in and try to hurt her kids or her… so many things u yet to know will come out..thank god she is with her kids now those kids cried for their mom so much not dad….

  60. Josh Taylor said,

    March 8, 2007 at 7:51 pm

    This post is mainly directed to Megs or Meghann as it shows up on her myspace page. She is one of James’ friends on his page along with another girl named Elizabeth who just happens to be Megs friend as well.. Elizabeth, up until a couple days ago had a picture of she and James all cuddled up together. She was wearing a Chicago Bears jersey. Up until the day all this went down there were two other pictures on her page, one of her up on stage at the Legion and one of James on the same stage and the caption for the picture said they were fullfilling a bet to each other. The reason I’m typing this is because it would appear from the pictures that James was having an affair with Elizabeth. So, I don’t doubt that James was with Megs and some “friends” but she might want to rethink what she is typing on a public blog unless she wants to become part of the investigation. That might be why she was typing things like “ex wife”. She may have been getting bad information from her “friend” Elizabeth. Both parties, James and Alicia share blame in this. As it has been stated here before, none of us know what happened that evening. Those of us that know them can be character witness’ to both but that’s about as far as it goes. It is truly a heartbreaking situation all the way around but the ones who are truly going to pay are the children as is most often the case. We can only hope that if Alicia was being abused she will be aquitted of the charge so she can go on being a good mother for her children. I just felt a need to call Megs out because I know where she’s coming from and I don’t think she has any business posting anything about either James or Alicia on here.

  61. Your soon to be worst enemy said,

    March 9, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    I used to work with alicia and i dont know who the hell meg thinks she is calling alicia crazy to be honest im glad that james got paralyzeed he got what was coming to him and for alicia you go girl!!!!
    ill see you when you get home

  62. CuzBigPG said,

    March 9, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    come home soon alicia!!!!!

  63. Mac said,

    March 10, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Ok lets get things straight here. Alicia is a complete liar. I don’t care what you have to say to defend her. If she is so abused and in such a bad relationship, then how come there are pictures of him covered with bruises but not a scratch on her? If she is so abused then why is it that all the injuries are his not hers? She is bipolar so she lies to make herself seem innocent. She is the one that beat him and endangered there childeren. Not him, so get things correct before you go saying that it was good that he was shot. No one deserves to get shot over stupid crap like being a crazy woman. I don’t care what you have to say to that. I just want everyone to know that she did more to him then you will ever hear and that is because all you have in your head is that the women is always right even if she is the one hurting people around them. Oh and Joan if she was defending herself then why would she shoot him with a weapon that was hidden in the most out of reach place unless she planned on doing it from the start. Oh and what about her saying as she pulled the trigger ” I’ll see you in hell!!!!!!!!!!” Well I know you all are going to try to fight this but until you hear the whole story from both sides shut up!!!!!!

  64. The Aunt said,

    March 11, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    MAC You need to not say anything because you are so lost I think that you are a lover of james to maybe and you must not know that there are more pictures and doctors notes and more to show the abuse of alicia other than james being shot what bruises did he get unless it was from other women who he slept with. you dont know james at all it sounds like. if you think u know him then you r lost in the dark and need to shut up.By the way the the gun was not hidden he was choking her and putting the gun in her face and then he laid the gun down and then you will know the rest in court……but if she wanted him to die she wouldnt have reacted fast to ask where his cell phone was to call the police and get help fast that she had shot her husband. Sometimes an abused person can react in a way to the abuser in away to protect herself not meaning to hurt the abuser but just to make it where she thinks she can be safe. She didnt want to come to this and wish things were different but sometimes things just happen in a fast response but by no means she ever wanted the father of her kids die no matter how much she was abused, cheated on, and kept from her family, friends etc…….If u and everyone was to know the story put your self in her shoes….

  65. KY Point of View said,

    March 11, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    What I have read, been told and have learned by researching the records is that the family members that do not live locally have a totally different idea/knowledge of the situation than from those who live here. For those of us that live near, work with and/or are friends with James and Alicia, we have a whole different view of thier relationship.

    I don’t believe anyone knows that whole truth except for James and Alicia. Even the trial, if there is one, will not provide all of the details. Beating each other up in here isn’t helping anyone and in fact is only causing more hate and pain for all parties involved.

    According to public records, the children were there when this happened. In fact, the 2yr was within feet of James when he was shot.

    Who knows what will happen at trial. If Alicia doesn’t plead to a lesser charge, she will need alot of support. James also needs alot of support from his friends and family.

    Obviously their marriage is over. So any abuse from either side is no longer a factor in their lives. They must both live with the consequences of their actions.

    As far as either of them having affairs, this is hearsay and gossip. Friends do have pictures of each other, friends do hug and laugh and have bets. The bet referred to in a previous post was over a football game. It was the Cincy team, not the bears. The bet was that the losing person would have to sing a song for everyone on the bar.

    I guess I am just saying don’t jump to conclusions about people. Don’t smear another person in this forum or others without first hand knowledge of facts.

    You would not want it to happen to you.

  66. Josh Taylor said,

    March 11, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    Well, It looks like the Elizabeth I referred to has been posting here all along…isn’t that right “KY point of view?” Amazing how you would know so much about the bet. It’s also amazing how you think you know so much about James and Alicia, yet you have only known them for a year. I guess those of us that have known them for over 10 years don’t know what we’re talking about. If you would have taken the time to read my post you would have read that I said it would “appear” from the pictures that he was having an affair. But I can understand how your guilt would cause you to twist my words. Explain this, if they are just “friends” how come the pictures disappeared from the myspace page. If something happened to one of my friends I wouldn’t get rid of pictures of them? I can’t believe that there are actually people posting that Alicia was beating James up. He weighs twice as much as she does and is also a former drill sergeant and police officer, to include being a member of a SWAT team, so please, if you’re going to make stuff up at least bring something that is believable…

  67. Mac said,

    March 12, 2007 at 1:46 am

    The only reason that he got beat up is that he refuses to hit her because he thinks it is cowardly to hit a waman and josh talyor you need to get your story straight. If you have known him for so long then why does he have no clue who you are and where you are getting your information from. He would never hit her out of respect for her and women in general, and if you say different then you maybe the one with a guilty conscience not him. If this has been going on for so many years how come the police department that he worked for has no record of any of these things happening. Josh you need to get out of your high and mighty chair and start to see the lieing woman for who she really is. When you do that maybe then you will understand what has happened here. Oh and by the way stop involing people that you have no clue about in the crazy womans made up story of why she did it and if she was doing in defense then why did her mom already know that she was going to shoot James before any of this happened. The gun was not in her face and he was not chocking her. He would never do anything like that and just for thinking he would you have just added to the lie that keeps going around. Now get your stories straight and Josh Shut up and KY Point of View is not this girl you are tallking about.

  68. Megs said,

    March 12, 2007 at 2:06 am

    JOSH TAYLOR – I find it funny that James how NO clue who you are. Makes me wonder what you have to do with this whole thing. You know no more about this situation then you do about the Elizabeth girl you are mentioning. I know 100% for a fact who KY POINT OF YOU is and it’s not the Elizabeth you keep dragging into all of this. I told Elizabeth to take her pics. of him off her page just like I took his pictures off my page. I am a military wife and I have been accused of having affairs just b/c I have pics. of other guys up on my page. I know how it looks. PLUS, i find it funny how you are able to see these pics. seeing how my page is set to private and has been for the past month or two and james page is set to private, SO, how did you find Elizabeth? REALLY makes me wonder what you have to do with all of this. WHY in God’s name would James ruin is career by waisting his energy on her by hitting her. He did NOT put any gun in her face, why would he do that infront of the kids, when the kids were asked about the whole situation, they didn’t mention anything about it. I have PERSONALLY seen the damage she has done to him b/c she is phsycotic and bipolar (it’s takes a moran not to see that). When james walks up covered in bruses and cuts and not a mark on her, who do you think did the beating?

    As for alicia, if this was in self defense then HOW did her mom know she was going to shot him in the back unless this was all premeditated. She tried to steal his truck, slammed his arm in the door in the process took his uniforms and BURNED THEM. That’s distruction of Government Property, BIG NO NO!!!! If he did pull her hair, then he did it while she was trying to steal his truck and leave the kids in a running vehicle at the legion. I would have done the same thing, too bad James is to big of a man to do that to her. As for the wounds, i wonder how much she paid her cell mate to beat the crap out of her before the medical examinar came in to see her.

    ALSO, she said they were together the 2days before and the day of that she shot him, BS b/c a bunch of us went to a concert in cliffton that wednesday before, I was on the phone with him a few times through out the night on thursday when he was with some of our other friends, then on friday i talked to him once at 4 (he was at the legion) and I was speaking to someone else who was at the legion while Alicia was there b/c I was getting ready to head up there so I was calling to let them know.

    AND KY POINT OF VIEW is correct about the “team” for the bet B/C james and I also had a bet about the Bengals game. It’s a well known fact that we all use to have stupid bets about the football games OMG, we must all being having affairs then huh Josh, your the affiar expert.

  69. March 12, 2007 at 2:13 am

    “phsycotic and bipolar” Ok, I have to ask this. That is a diagnosis. Are you a doctor qualified to make such a diagnosis? Were you present when a qualified doctor made such a diagnosis? As most doctors know how to at least spell it, I am going to assume that you aren’t a doctor.

  70. Chasity said,

    March 12, 2007 at 5:44 am

    You know what? this page is about abused women not about who can out type who. and when I say abused I mean Alicia. yes she has been abused by her husband james.. and so to the people that have no facts straight about anything stay out of it… No she is not crazy she just protected herself and children… to the people saying she is crazy its funny because it takes one to know one.. and please crazy people always blame it on someone else…
    and to the GIRLS that have the pics with him of course you take his side I am sure you know him better than her and believe what he tells you.. because he leaves her at home all the time hanging with you oh honey that says alot about you and him …. I love Alicia and I am sorry you never got to know her for who she really is TRUST me she would have a made a much better friend the him………..@}—}—-

  71. Chasity said,

    March 12, 2007 at 5:47 am

    oh yeah by the way the truck is in ALICIAs name he is just co signer
    so then again she wasnt stealing it

  72. Chasity said,

    March 12, 2007 at 5:55 am

    Meg you sure do talk to james alot on your phone.. funny if your “husband” and him are friends why dont he call him them or is it just that you and james have something going … not accusing just going by what you say..
    seeing as though this has been going on for years you really dont know anything so stay out of this matter and visit james take care of him because your friend no one here is

  73. Josh Taylor said,

    March 12, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    Wow. It looks like I hit a nerve with some of the bloggers here. I am truly amazed at the level of anger that guilt brings out. Just to clear a few things up. First, you really need to READ other posts completely before you respond. You all are responding and getting post confused. Second, I am friends with BOTH James and Alicia and know BOTH of them very well. I have never accused James of beating Alicia. I have never known Alicia to do anything to James either. I don’t live with them and so I can’t defend either side. All I said was IF he was beating her then I hope she gets off so she can get her kids back. I also said none of us know what happened that night and really have no business speculating. I do find it hard to believe that little Alicia would be beating James up and I can’t believe someone reinterated that here. If a woman is beating you up you don’t have to hit her back. There are other ways to control the situation without hitting her. He is a former police officer for god sakes. Mac, again, I never accused James of doing anything to Alicia so I don’t know why you would ask me how come he never got in trouble when he was a police officer. That question makes no sense. Also, I never said that he was choking her. You’re getting my post mixed up with somebody else. Unlike you all, I am only typing what I know to be a fact. That’s why I used the word “appear” to be having an affair when I was talking about Elizabeth. I never said he “was” having an affair. Megs, you know James has two different pages. Why are you playing dumb now. You and Elizabeth are his only 2 friends on his 2nd page…

  74. Wife confessed, detective says said,

    March 12, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    Wife confessed, detective says
    Husband paralyzed from waist down

    Alicia Bartholomew walked out of the Kenton County jail just hours before she appeared in court Tuesday on a charge she shot her Iraq war veteran husband.

    (Edited per HSH for copyright reasons)

  75. Mac said,

    March 12, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    Ok Josh now you have gone to far. You are not a friend of james or he would know who you are. We have asked him several times and every singel time he has no clue who in the world you are. If you know alcia so well maybe you are the one having an affiar since the liar came out when james was in Iraq and emailed him saying she was having an affair. Oh and Josh if we find out that you have been getting into people accounts without there permision trust me your in going to regret ever messing with my friends. I am not talking violence I am just talking that you will be the one people are going to be questioning about your involvement with alicia.

  76. Mac said,

    March 12, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    Chasity you need to get things straight and you need to learn grammer. The truck is not in her name it is in James name. I know this for a fact because her parents could not use it as proprty bail because she doesn’t have a name on it only james. Just like everything she was using. It is all in James name not Hers. That is why Alicias parents had to mortgage there home to get her out. Oh and you don’t have to be a doctor to know that she has something wrong in her head. Meg also talks to James so much because she is a caring friend and no there is nothing going on, most of her friends are guys, she gets along better with guys. You just want to make Alicia’s crime seem like it was called for. I don’t care who you are no human has the right to shoot anyone else. If she was so abused then she would of got out along time ago but she didn’t because she was the one doing the abusing. If you can show me evidence that without a doubt is proof that James was the one beating her instead of the other way around then maybe I will be on your side of the story, but wait there is no proof out there that she was beat and held at gun point besides what she said. I am sorry, but a police report is only what the eyewitness says and guess what the only eyewitness at the time was alicia. How convenent for her. She shoots her husband says “see you in hell” calls the police and then claims spousal abuse. What a load of crap. Oh did I fail to metion that she decided to kill her husband infront of there kids. That is a very sick woman that does that. (Edited per HSH)

  77. Megs said,

    March 12, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    JOSH!!!!!!!!!!! OK WOW, JUST b/c I talk to james on the phone means i’m having an affair with him. OK, I guess that means your having an affair with Alicia b/c you’re backing up her story. The reason i’m the one always calling him is b/c my husband doesn’t like using the phone very much. And when we were back home that weekend that he was shot, I was calling him those times b/c my husband was driving, he’s not going to drive and talk on the phone at the same time, it’s a distraction. I really would like to know how you know whose on his myspace pages seeing how they are set to private. The reason he has 2 is b/c he lost his password to one of them and started a new one, but then he remembered the old password and has been using that one.

    The truck is in James’ name, if it were in Alicia’s name they could have used it for property bond instead of needing to take out a mortage on their home. HELLO, people need to start using their heads. That whole battered wife syndrome crap doesn’t fly with me. They hit you once, you leave and press charges, it’s that simple, it makes it your fault if you stay for them to repeatidly do it again. If she had the guts to shoot him, then she had the guts to leave him IF he had been beating her.

    My thoughts are that b/c the divorce was close to being finalized, she had plans on killing him, putting some brusing on herself and claiming self defense so she could get that nice little insurance policy of his. She was getting ready to move back to NC, she had an interview at a bank that doesn’t make enough money for her to support 3 kids SO this was the more convienante was to go, to bad for her it didn’t work in her favor. Just like the chick her killed her Marine husband for a new pair of boobs, you don’t mess with a US Soldier.

  78. Megs said,

    March 12, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    OH YEAH AND CHASITY!!!!!!!!!!! Have you ever heard of a TYPO, yeah, that happens from time to time………….

  79. March 12, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    When people start offering medical/psychological diagnoses with out having the qualifying background to make such a diagnosis, I call that misinformation.
    The question is often asked- If she was abused why didn’t they leave? the reasons they don’t leave are varied and individual. Very often a certain amount of fear over what will happen if they leave is involved. Women who do leave an abusive relationship are at risk of retaliation. Even if the couple both agree to separate, the woman can be at risk if she does something that a controlling husband doesn’t agree with. (dating, child support and custody are hot button issues, though it seems that just about anything can put them in danger) Women who have been abused will sometimes attempt to leave the relationship 9-10 times before they are able to leave successfully.
    While I encourage you to leave links with pertinent information on the case, please do not copy the article.

  80. Chasity said,

    March 12, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    meg your not worth my time so carry on carry on and by the way grammer?? typo?? what the hell are you talking about

  81. Mac said,

    March 12, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    Ok Chasity typo means that she miss typed something. Oh but I guess you have to have better then a GED to understand that. Ok homesweethome, I have the right to talk about the problems she has. I have taken pyschology classes and understand the crap that has messed up her mind so much and I don’t care what excuses you give her. When she tells her mom she is going to shot him then tells him ” see you in hell”. A smart person would say that she intended to kill him without any regrets. but wait she missed and now she is going to pay for it. If she was thinking safety of her and her kid then how come she almost shot her 2 year old son when she wanted to kill her husband. That is a very messed up woman that would endanger her own child. I have a daughter that is almost 2 and if I had the samething happen to me I would of taken the evidence to the police the same day it happen and report him for hitting me. but that would mean he would of had to touch her to put a bruise or injury on her and he never has. Oh and if James would of found out she was leaving him he would not have chased her down or assulted her he would of cheered and probably had a party to celebrate of her leaving him. Instead she talked to her mom about how she planned on shoting him and then saying it was in self defense. I don’t buy it and if you do you need to look real hard at what she is saying. She has become such a good liar that even people that don’t even know her can see that she is trying to get away with murder. I support James and I always will. Real friends stand up for there true friends and don’t cover for there mistakes. But I guess you would much rather have another lair on the streets instead of an american soldier that has given so much up to protect this counrty and the freedom you have to bad mouth him. He still loves this country and so do I but people that would rather let a killer lose make this country fall apart. I don’t care what she says she will always be guilty in my book and there will be no sympathy in my eyes.

  82. Megs said,

    March 12, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    OK Just for you people (especially Josh and Chasity) who think i don’t know what i’m talking about. I had a 3.8 GPA in Criminal Justice, I passed the exam for the Michigan Department of Corrections and TSA with FLYING COLORS (which it’s VERY HARD TO DO, i know people who have taken the exams 4 or 5 times without passing), i have worked at 2 Police Departments as Police Cadets and a Sheriffs Deputy. I have been trained to pin point the signs and symptoms of certain pshycological disorders. The only reason my GPA wasn’t a 4.0 was b/c i didn’t agree with my professor in my Race and Gender class that you have to be a certain Race, Gender and even SIZE to be able to commet a crime. You don’t have to be a certain race, gender or size to commet a crime. People keep saying that b/c Alicia was small that there is NO way she could beat james up. BS. I quialified for the JR Olympics in Martial Arts, the girl that beat me in the state competetion (i took home the silver) was half my size. Power and Force has NOTHING to do with size.

    My husband was a syminary stupid who is now in law enforcment in the military, he as well, has been trained to pin point certain phycological disorders. ALONG with being able to see if a person has a violent personality. My husband and I have spent the past 4 -5 years surrounded by people with violent behavior, including child and spousal abuse history and were able to pick up on it in the first meeting.

    James who NO signs of any violent behavior, infact he still cries over what he saw in Iraq, he cried over not being able to see his kids everyday and even the fact that he is so far away from home. A violent man doesn’t cry over issues like this, he would be angered and raise his voice while speaking of these things, no cying and looking down.

    OF course you would all know this if you do indeed know james or even if you had anything more (like Mac said) than a GED, or someone who went straight to beauty school after high school b/c they couldn’t do any better.

  83. Megs said,

    March 12, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    P.S. Chasity, do you even know James and Alicia or are you just being a nosey BSer just for S***S and giggles………

  84. Uncle Petie said,

    March 12, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    I am sure that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about the truck in question.. I know for a fact that her name is on the truck because i was the one who sold it to her. My mom always said if you dont know what you are talking about then SHUTUP. I know alot went on between them and i will make sure that it comes in the trial because there is no reason for me to stoop to your level of ignorance. so if you need anything else about the truck ask the salesman (me) all about it because I still have the paperwork to prove it!!!!!!!!

  85. March 12, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    Megs, a psychology class does not give the person the ability to diagnose a psychological disorder. It merely points out the hallmarks, allowing the disorder to be considered in any most situations. Every psy class I have taken has been good about pointing that out.
    As you say you have a background in law enforcement, maybe you could answer a couple of questions for me?
    What are law enforcement’s guidelines about pulling a gun on an unarmed person? Is a law enforcement officer ever encouraged to pull a gun that they are not intending to use? And what are law enforcement’s guidelines on storing a weapon when it is not carried on their person? And what are the marital property laws in Kentucky?
    I am glad that you got the martial arts training, that is probably something that all women should get to help displace the advantage that size gives. Unfortunately, most of us don’t. Does anyone know if Alicia had martial arts training?

  86. Josh Taylor said,

    March 13, 2007 at 12:41 am

    OK Mac/Megs, now I’m getting into peoples’ accounts that are public? Let me clear this up for you since you seem to be confused. One of his accounts are marked private. I have no idea what is on that page. The second account that you are talking about is public and only has two friends on there, who are Megs and Elizabeth. Check it out for yourself if you don’t believe me. And Megs, again, please read and re-read what I am typing. I never said anything about you talking to James on the phone. Someone else said that. As a matter of fact, the only reason I brought your name into this is because you were Elizabeth’s friend and she had the pictures of she and James all cuddled up together which made them look to be a “little” more than friends. I never accused you of doing anything with anybody. Nor did I accuse Elizabeth. I just said sometime pictures tell the story. As far as the rest of the crap that you all typed, I’m not even going to respond to it. I hope that the other people that are reading this are able to see by the way you type and the things that you say that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

  87. KY Point of View said,

    March 13, 2007 at 1:22 am

    Josh you also thought I was Elizabeth, which I am not. I know Elizabeth, and I know both James and Alicia. Sometimes, pictures don’t tell the whole story. Pictures can be let to the imagination of the viewer. A birthday celebration between a group of friends can appear to be more intimate than reality.

    I would caution everyone to take a step back and remember that this forum is not going to make one bit of difference in the trial or even in the truth of the story. This forum is just an arena for people to vent.

    No one here is going to become fast friends or even agree to disagree over the abuse/non abuse/rights/causes or reasons that led up to that night.

    The facts will come out in court, if there is ever a trial. A plead will most likely be worked out because the chance of 20+ years is a heavy weight to bear. Alicia will want to be with her children again. Any loving mom would. I don’t believe for a minute that she is anything but a loving mom where her children are concerned.

    As far as the post about me knowing alot about the case, I read and research as many of the public records as I can. I do know that the police are still talking with people and putting together the case. The case has not gone to the grand jury yet so no one knows how this will all work out.

    Each side has their opinion. I will say that from reading all the posts here and the various statements given by friends, neighbors and co workers that there is a wide span of opinions on the relationship between James and Alicia. The people in KY do not know the James you speak of from NC. That person has never shown any indication of the things you speak of. In fact, Alicia seems to be more of the stronger personalities in the relationship. This is not saying anything against her so don’t get your skivies in a wad. It is just that from the KY friends, he was the quiet one.

    Who knows what happened? None of us. Perhaps we should all wait for the trial and listen together here in Kenton County Court. It will an open court for anyone to attend.

  88. Josh Taylor said,

    March 13, 2007 at 2:05 am

    Sitting here watching TV I felt the need to type one more thing. I brought the whole affair issue into this blog and may have caused it to go off track. KY point of view, if you’re not Elizabeth then I apologize for bringing you into this in that way. It just surprised me when you knew so much about the bet without me saying a whole lot and you came across as someone who didn’t even know them. Something like that wouldn’t be public knowledge. The real issue that I struggle with is my buddy James is paralyzed and his wife who is also a dear friend of mine is facing prison time for something that she probably regrets doing now. In her confession to the police in the article that was posted on here earlier she said “I made a mistake”. And it was a HUGE one. We just pray to God that this will work out in the best possible way for both of them.

  89. KY Point of View said,

    March 13, 2007 at 2:12 am

    Thank you Josh.

    I really feel for James. He has a tough road a head of him. Alicia also has a tough road. I would not want to be in either pair of shoes.

  90. Mac said,

    March 13, 2007 at 2:56 am

    Thank you Josh for aleast apologizing for the affair issue. It just bothers me when a friend is dragged into an argument the she should have never been pulled into. Elizabeth had pics up on her page and it was just her having a good time with a good friend. My wife has alot of pictures on her myspace of her being all friendly with guys she knows but it doesn’t make me mad and make me think she is having an affair. I know Alicia is sorry but it doens’t change what she did this to her husband which she said she loved very much and even though she loved him she decided his life was not worth living anymore. it just bothers me when a fellow soldier is put in such a bad light even though he is the kindest and most heartfelt person you will ever meet. I have a feeling that Alicia would take it back if she could but to even think about doing something like that to a person you love just shows me something was just wrong with her thinking through her whole way of life. I don’t want to start anymore fights but I did want to show that my friend was not pushing for this to happen to him and he just wanted to be with his kids and away from her. That is why he wanted the divorce. He is a good guy and I just wanted to point out what everyone says is not always the truth. I hate when peoples point of veiw clouds the truth. I know Alicia’s famly says one thing and his friends say another thing but the truth well be said in court and that is when she will either pay for her crimes or she will get off. I pray that God help both of them to get things right and that everything will work out in the end.

  91. Megs said,

    March 13, 2007 at 3:03 am

    Josh – Thank you SO much for your post. I am also sorry for any hatefull things that I have spoken toward you. Any true friend of James is a friend of mine. Mac is my husband (not that you haven’t already picked up on that). Things go wrong in people’s marriages all the time and the main cause of a lot of that is that people don’t know that a marriage takes 3, Husband, Wife and God. Without God in our marriage, we never would have made it the past 5 years. One good thing that has come out of all of this is that James is beginning to grow in his Faith and to Let Go and Let God, the same with all his friends. Even if the judge, jurors and so forth don’t find the truth and convict Alicia, God will. He knew 29 years ago that this was going to happen and he has his reasoning for it and James knows that. I’m also sorry for telling you my myspace was set to private, I clicked the button for it to be set to private but apparently it didn’t take, i just found that out tonight when a friend of mine went to friend request me,,,, oops, my bad.

  92. NC said,

    March 13, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    I have some questions to some things that don’t seem to make sense. How is James the quiet one when he is the one out at bars all night while Alicia is at home with the children 24 hours a day? Are you saying that you know someone better after a year than people that have known him his whole life in NC? Are you saying it is normal to be married to someone and have children together but go out and kiss other women and make bets with them? Come on people grow up. What are the children going to think especially their little girl when she sees her daddy hugging and kissing other women besides her mother. And another thing that sounds really stupid is that i’ve heard some things about she was beating him up? I thought that she was about 90 pounds and he was about 200 pounds. She must have had some damn good training to put up a fight with someone with his training. Sounds to me that you all don’t really know anything and are just making up things as you go. I am just saying that the things that you are saying does not make any sense.

  93. friend said,

    March 13, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    Hi everyone ,
    I thought I would let you all know something that has been twisted by news reporters. They say that James was shot in the back. Well its not like you think. He was actually shot from the side and it went through his arm and through his ribs and somehow hit his spine. I have talked to his parents.

  94. friend said,

    March 13, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    James’s parents also know about him abusing Alicia but they said that they have to stand behind their son and his beleifs. They also said that there is a neighbor that saw James hit Alicia with a lamp. The neighbor also saw James get the gun out of his truck right before the shooting.

  95. KY Point of View said,

    March 13, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Friend, that neighbor needs to call the detective at the number I posted before. Anyone that has any first hand knowledge needs to contact the authorities. This goes for either side of the issue.

    My only point about the differences in the stories is that the people from KY that have known them for only 2 years have a totally different view of the couple and their relationship that the friends from NC have posted. It is almost like each side is talking about 2 different couples.

    Sadly, there is probably truth in both sides.

  96. Mac said,

    March 13, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    NC I guess you can’t read because it doesn’t matter what size or how much you weigh. If the other person is going to sit there and just take the beating because he has to much respect for the other then how can you say that she could have never abused him. I have friends that are about 80 pounds and I have to say she can hit harder then most guys I know that way 200 pounds. Size doesn’t matter it is all about what the person that is being abused does. Do they fight back do they take it and I am soory to say but James has just sat there and taken it. Oh and the thing about hugging and kissing other woman. I am sorry to say but they where about a week away from a divorce and she was no long his wife anyway. It doesn’t matter if he was hugging and kissing any one but it does matter that they where getting a divorce and he was leaving he because she had so many problems. Ok “friend” but I don’t know where you get your information but I can tell just from the 2 post you but in here you have no clue what you are talking about. James doesn’t have the mean spirited nature to hit a woman. When you talk to a man about what he has been through and he starts to cry because of it. You can tell what kind of heart he has. I have been trained to see viloene in someones personality and there is not one spot of it in James. So if you think you know him so well and you think his parents would say something like that you are such a bad liar and you need to stop making things up. Everyone just stop through things in that you make up and stop dragging people in that have no right being said in the first place. Like “friend” talking about his parents if you are to slow minded to understand.

  97. friend said,

    March 13, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    I’m friends with both and just stating facts. Not just taking sides. And a divorce is not final until its final. A week til divorce does not give either person right to have sex with others and get others pregnant. I know what i’m talking about. And the thing about him coming to you and crying and showing you bruises sounds weird. A guy coming up to another guy crying,….anyway it seems that James and his friends need to grow up alot. Some people that are supposed to have a good education are some of the dumbest people I have ever met. And by the way, learn how to spell SORRY.

  98. NC said,

    March 13, 2007 at 4:56 pm


  99. NC said,

    March 13, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    If you know James and his parents so well ask his parents yourself. They know that he needs help. I have nothing to gain or loose by telling you all what they told me.
    I don’t know why you and your wife are attacking people’s coments. That shows what kind of people you are. I’m not going to fuss with you people I am more mature than that.

  100. Megs said,

    March 13, 2007 at 6:47 pm

    HAHA, that’s funny that people are saying he pulled the gun out of his truck seeing how the gun was STILL IN HIS TRUCK when his parents go to her apartment. THey looked in the truck, it was still there. I have seen the bruses she left on him, the cuts, i have gotten phone calls while she was in the process of holding a knife to his neck (the only reason i didn’t do anything is b/c i’m in MI and i have no clue where she lives). BUT It got handled just moments after the phone call happened. I’m sorry, but if someone had a knife to my neck, i’d beat the you know what out of them, I just wish james would have fought back. AND the reason he’s out at the legion all the time is bc ALICIA has the kids most of the week, he only gets them 2 days a week. COURT ORDERED!!!!!!!! And that isn’t b/c he beats alicia or anything like that, it’s b/c he’s in the military and service members don’t get full custody of their kids, id know, i have pleanty of friends who are divorced and the dead beat mom gets the kids only b/c the dad is in the military. In the eye’s of God that marriage was NULL the moment she started cheating on him. OH YEAH THAT’S RIGHT, he got e-mails from her while he was in Iraq saying she was cheating on him and was leaving him. You all talk about James cheating (get the facts straight, he’s not cheating) then why is it that he had to have a peternity test with not just 1 of the kids but with 2 of the kids. HHMMMMMM, stop blaming james for this crap b/c she’s the one who can’t keep her legs closed.

    I really wish people on here would grow up and stop throwing out the insults about grammer and stuff, there is such a thing as a typo and when people get pissed off at ignorant people like “NC” and “Friend”, your gonna be too pissed off to concentrate on good grammer.

  101. Megs said,

    March 13, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    AND BY THE WAY NC, I have talked to his parents, i was at the hospital with his parents. Mac is my husband so he knows EVERYTHING James’ parents told me. Maybe YOUR the one who needs to get your facts straight. If you were a true friend of Alicia’s and you knew that he was apparently beating her, then why didn’t you do something about it. Guess you not as good a friend to her as you think.

  102. NC said,

    March 13, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    Here we go again. Think what you want. This is a site about a husband and a wife. Not about me. I told you that you and your husband are dumb. You don’t know me so stop acting like you do. And stop bashing people for their coments. If you don’t like what is being said, don’t come to this site. This is a site for people to give opinions about the case. Not what they think about other people in this blog.

  103. March 13, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    Ok, now you all have me totally confused. Last night I thought things were working out and you all might be willing to agree to disagree but at least be civil with each other and I wouldn’t have to babysit this thread so much. Now today you are all at it again.
    Megs, you esp. have me confused- Alicia held a knife on James? As that is a crime, I take it that James did call for back up that time and there is a police report? The way you talked I thought you spent a lot of time with the couple. But you are in Mi? And the gun was still in the truck when the parents arrived? So if the gun was in the truck, who shot James? There was court ordered custody- but the couple lived together?

    Oh and the reason the mother of a military couple usually ends up with the kids, is because usually the mother was the one who had been providing the primary care for the children. Often a mother who is in the military, yet provides the primary care for the child will retain custody- unless she is being sent overseas. If a father provides the primary care for the children or if the mother is unable to care for children- the father will usually get custody- whether he is in the military or not.

  104. KY Point of View said,

    March 13, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    Megs was local when the shooting happened. She was visiting her family.

    The knife issued happened in Jan 07 and yes the police were called and there is a police report.

    The gun that was thought to have been used was the one that James usually carries with him. In fact, the gun used was the one Alicia had in the apartment which had been James from his police days. It was in the storage room out of reach of the children.

    Again, there are things that will not be public until the trial. And then only if there is a trial. From everything I read and hear, a plea deal will mostly likely be the outcome of this event.

    As far as the days and visitations, I understood James had 2 days a week which he spent with his children. He did not live in the apartment where he was shot at, only Alicia and the children lived there. He rented a place from another couple which he knew.

    I really meant what I said that it sounds like 2 totally different people when you look at the various comments.

    I do hope when the truth comes out that it will be allowed to be posted here.

  105. March 14, 2007 at 1:09 am

    Ky Point of View- I encourage the posting of links to articles that show the disposition of the case. I agree that it does sound like two different couples, yet that often happens when the families are split due to violence.
    Was there one, two, or three guns? One James carried with him, one ‘seen’ in the truck, one in the storage area?

  106. KY Point of View said,

    March 14, 2007 at 2:28 am

    As I understand, there was a gun in the apartment that James had left there for Alicia to use as protection since he wasn’t living there.

    Another gun James had with him at all times and was kept in the truck. This is the gun that was part of the earlier “fight” when Alicia came to the Legion and tried to take the truck. Which didn’t make any sense since she had the children with her and they were in her car, that she had left running.

    It was first thought that she shot James with the gun he usually carried. As I understand, that is not what happened. The gun actually used was the one kept at the apartment. The gun that James had was still in the truck when it was searched. So, he didn’t carry in his gun from the truck as posted before. Of course this is assuming that he didn’t have yet another gun that isn’t one of the two listed above. Who knows how many guns the couple owned, that is not part of this issue.

  107. March 14, 2007 at 4:49 am

    Ok thanks for clearing that up for me Ky Point of View.

  108. Chasity said,

    March 14, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    ok .. lets act like adults here… as I can see you understand me..
    I am Alicia’s cousin if you have read prior post you would know…
    I dont like confrontation, so please back off … I am just trying to protect my cousin name.. so if you are not family or dont know about the abuse stay out of it.. I think its funny that some of you that like to talk crap are the people that only have known them for a year or less…. I think us “family, friends” know alot more good and bad things that you would never understand…
    tell me have you ever met ANYONE and they just bluntly say “Hey my name is .. and I am an abuser”? NO me either… so please dont judge my cousin until you know everything from beginning 1998 til the end of trail…
    I am getting upset the same way any loving family member would..

  109. wheeeeeee! said,

    March 14, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    For a moment there, I thought that I had stumbled into a Jerry Springer episode. It is understandable for these types of comments to be made, especially by folks who are so emotionally connected to the story. For those who want my symphathy, I am sorry that this has happened.

    As far as judging Alicia, I agree that we are not the appropriate body to make such a judgement. I believe that a US court of law is the appropriate entity to make the judgement in this case. While we can offer our own conclusions here, they are too often uninformed and emotionally involved.

    I am relieved, as I think most people are, that our justice system does not rely on such pathos arguments of public opinion when determining the outcome in criminal trials. It is reassuring that our courts look to Lady Justice and aspire to provide are fair and unbiased judgement.

    That said, the news reports claim that police have “arrested and charged [Alicia] with first-degree assault.” (The Cincinnati Post –

    As I understand it, the case is going before a Grand Jury (The Enquirer –, which will “determine if there is enough evidence for a trial.” (Wikipedia –

    According to Kentucky law, a first-degree assault is a Class B Felony (Kentucky Legislature – And, it is written in Kentucky law that the sentence of imprisonment “for a Class B felony, [be] not less than ten (10) years nor more than twenty (20) years;” (Kentucky Legislature –

    While I am not a lawyer, it seems clear that under these charges, Alicia could be sentenced to between 10 and 20 years in prison. Of couse this assumes the Grand Jury indicts her, and that the courts find her guilty of first-degree assault.

    With her admision of guilt on the public record (The Enquirer –, and there being no reported recantation of that statement, it would seem that alone would be enough evidence for a Grand Jury to indict her. But again, that is just speculation.

    I think that James’s commander, Maj. McKinley Cunningham, said it best when he described this as a “human tradgedy.” (The Enquirer – Such is the human condition, with self-awareness aparently anchored to the foundations of emotion, that we are torn while attempting to align our actions with what we know is right. The challenge of self-regulating one’s actions to abide by a moral, or legal, code seems to be uniquely human.

    And in this case, it is unfortunate that it seems that Alicia did not rise to that challenge.

  110. March 14, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    Chastity, you also have to understand. A person they cared for was also harmed- possibly permanently. They are also upset. And that is why they are angry.
    I think that about the only reason to justify using a gun on another human being would be in self defense, when in fear and in immediate danger for your own life or the lives of your children. I understand that that question and the question of previous abuse is the part that is in dispute. And I take it that is part of what the Grand Jury will consider.

    But both sides do need to at least concede that both sides are upset. Both sides are hurting. Both sides are in fear for their friend or relative. And so both sides are angry.

    I have been thinking of what Ky Point of View said about two completely different sides, almost like two different couples. I don’t know the couple, and I can’t say if there was or was not previous abuse. But one thing about domestic violence is that people who have been abused often don’t tell or let on about the abuse, they may even deny it. Esp. if they feel the people are more the spouse’s friends than their own. Or in this case, maybe they hadn’t known them long enough. They fear what the spouse will do if they find out the friends are told. If they feel the friends are more the spouse’s friends- they won’t tell, because they are afraid the friend will say something.

    And unless actually caught in the act, an abuser will deny. If the victim tries to tell, they will often tell the friends the victim is crazy and try to blame the victim (that is why my ears perked up when the accusation was made that Alicia was crazy.) With domestic violence, often there are no other witnesses-because they are in their home with the door closed. And if an abuser is concerned about what people might think- they won’t leave bruises where they will show. So if there are no witnesses, and no police reports it is hard to actually prove domestic violence. That is because it is one person’s word against the other.

    Much has been said about James being a former law enforcement officer and a veteran. I believe we owe our law enforcement officers, soldiers and war veterans our support and our respect. I believe they should be proud of what they do to keep us safe. But reality is reality. I haven’t said anything- but as a group law enforcement officers have a high rate of domestic violence. As a matter of fact there is a whole blog about that: . And I frequently see the term ‘war veteran’ used in news articles about child abuse and domestic violence. So I am aware that being a law enforcement officer and a war veteran does not mean they are not capable of violence at home.

  111. Angela said,

    March 15, 2007 at 12:39 am

    Beleive me, there are plenty of witnesses. And they will be in court for Alicia. There are neighbors that saw James get the gun from his truck that night and also saw him grab her by the neck outside when they were burning each others clothes. When she went inside of the apartment, that is when James went to the truck to get his gun. He then took the gun inside of the apartment. I have seen James in the past also be very rough with his children when he got angry. I saw him grab his little girl by the arm really rough and when I said something to him about it, he just gave me a very evil look. He is someone that no one should trust. He seems like a really nice person until you really get to know him. It is kinda like he has two different personalities. He is very friendly one minute and then the next very evil. He would talk about people of other races and he knew that I didn’t like that. I have people in my family of a different race. He would say things so hateful at times. If people only knew the other side of James. I’m not trying to be rude to anyone or disrespect anyone’s family member or friend. I just want you to know to watch out for James. I was a friend of his and use to hangout with him. I thought he was a cool guy. But he started talking really weird and doing things that normal people don’t do. I can understand that it is hard to believe this but I promise you guys that I am telling you all the truth. I can’t prove it to you but please just step back and watch the things he says and does.

  112. IF WALLS COULD TALK said,

    March 15, 2007 at 5:28 am

    SOME PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND SOME DONT. No one knows what it has been like married to James. for one Beth this is not the first time and the last that he has cheated There is alot of time that has cheated. I know personally. He has 2 other kids by 2 diiferent woman since he was married to Alicia. There is alot of neighbors who has seen with their eyes that Alicia was abused.The kids that night were in another room with the door locked put away from there raging father. Aliciaasked several times for a divorce but her husband refused to give her one. He always threatened her life if she left. ALICIA IS WONDERING WHO IS JOSH TAYLOR she never heard of him. But thanks for the comments. If Alicia is so crazy , Then why didnt James just leave he was out all the time any way. If he was such a war hero why did he go to Iraq just for three months not to fight or make anything but to get away from cheating on his wife. Because she found out that he was cheating on her by the doctors with another woman. The truck is Alicias and will shortly be returned to her. She really dont want the truck back because it is infected with diseases with all the girls he did in there. You can not put a property bond it has to be CASH d… heads and the truck is still being paid for( its under a lien)the truck doesnot belong to any until paid for i guess james’s parents will make the payments since they took it.

    The truth will be set free…… from the one

  113. KY Point of View said,

    March 15, 2007 at 1:56 pm

    Based on all the support from both sides, I hope they use the large court room. They will need the room for all the people that KNOW the truth.

    Who is the for Beth comment directed to? Was she at the apt as well?

    We will all just have to wait until the trial to learn the facts. Public records are not releasing some things and some of the statements, interviews etc that have been released have already been proven false. Of course what happened and why it happened are only truly known to James and Alicia.

  114. Megs said,

    March 15, 2007 at 2:24 pm

    IF WALLS COULD TALK, FIRST if you are going to talk crap about james, maybe you should point the finger in your own direction, it’s that right ALICIA. Don’t for one second try to pull this crap on James, Defimation of Charactor IS a winnable lawsuit. AND why go pulling your neighbors into it, i’m sure they’ll love that when they are asked to testify and have NO knowledge of any of this. If James threated you when you wanted to leave, then why did he tell me he couldn’t WAIT for the divorce to be finalized and for you to move back to NC and get your job and your little bank.

    Beth is my best friend, she tells me EVERYTHING and I would know if there was anything other than friendship going on in that relationship. James and Beth are really close friends just like James and I are, if I were still in KY i’d be at the hospital everyday with him helping him recover along with my husband being there as well. You can be friends with the opposite sex without having a sexual relationship. 90% of Mine and Beth’s friends are guys who we have had NO kind of sexual encounter with AT ALL.

    And Alicia, if your gonna post stuff and bash people, at least check your spelling and grammer so we don’t have to read it 5 times to figure out what your saying, a typo here and there is fine but good lord come on now.

  115. Megs said,

    March 15, 2007 at 2:28 pm

    Angela – That’s funny, b/c he thought it was the greatest thing in the world that I have a brother and sister from China and that my husband and I are talk about adopting a Child from Haiti, he actually said it would be something he’s probably look into doing….. OH YEAH, he’s SO racist.


    March 15, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    For those interested, you can see upcoming events scheduled for this legal case:

    Case Number: 07-F-00232

    Edited per HSH

  117. March 15, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    This is not a spelling class or an English class. The next comment that criticized grammar, typing skill, punctuation, sentence composition or spelling gets the whole comment thrown out- regardless of the rest of the content.

  118. Amylulu said,

    March 15, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    Most of you guys sound like you are 12…nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree without all the childish put-downs.

    Why is it that just because someone knows something that you don’t, it automatically means that they’re lying? Do you and your husbands put all of your business in the street? Do you guys tell everyone about all of your spats and maybe even some hateful things you might have said or done to each other in the heat of the moment. Just because you know this guy doesn’t mean he was an angel. That sentence also does not condone the action that has him in the hospital, either. No one deserves to be assaulted in any manner- verbally, emotionally, physically or otherwise.
    My opinion on this blog is that it is here so no one feels alone in any type of domestic situation they are in and also to help recognize some dangerous traits of abuse and what the escalation can lead to and many links to help people in that situation.
    For the record- I am not saying James beat her, there is no way hell I would ever know that, but I am saying there was abuse in the relationship just based on the news reports. And it seems to have gone both ways- at least mentally.

    Thanks for the site, homesweethome
    Good luck Alicia
    Good luck James

  119. March 15, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    “My opinion on this blog is that it is here so no one feels alone in any type of domestic situation they are in and also to help recognize some dangerous traits of abuse and what the escalation can lead to and many links to help people in that situation.”
    You are correct in that Amylulu. And thank you for reading.

  120. KY Point of View said,

    March 16, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    HSH this site provides a wonderful service to people in all walks of life. I would have loved to have had this help years ago when I needed it. It felt so lonely thinking that I couldn’t tell anyone.

    Thanks for all you do!

  121. KY Point of View said,

    March 16, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    For all you local friends of Alicia, I hope you are around to help her out with the children now that she is being required to return to Ky. Not having the support group of her family from NC will make this even harder for her.

    It is a challenge with three children under the best of situations. With all that is going on, she will need backup and relief while waiting for trial.

  122. Chasity said,

    March 16, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    Alicia has a great support system in north carolina and in kentucky…
    She can come and go from state to state. but resides in ky…
    she has family with her that is not leaving her alone.. the children are great..

  123. KY Point of View said,

    March 16, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    That is nice to hear. No matter what we adults choose to do, no one wants any child to suffer.

    I am glad to hear that she has family that can stay with her in KY.

  124. Friend From High School said,

    March 16, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    Hi, my name is Alisha and I am an old friend of Alicia’s, (then her last name was Peace), from high school. I havn’t seen or heard from her in a long time. Until now I didn’t know she had moved. The last time I spoke to her she was working at the bank in Hillsborough, NC. And she only had one child, a girl. That was about five or more years ago.

    I just wanted her to know that she is in my thoughts and prayers.

  125. Corrections said,

    March 17, 2007 at 3:56 am

    Here are some corrections coming from a VERY reliable source. I have posted the numbers (from each comment) from which each of these corrections should be made.

    3. a) there is not more than one gun in the house, thus how could james hold multiples guns to her head?
    b) Alicia has constantly stated that james wanted to try and work things out so why would he point a gun to her head in the first place?
    c) I’ve seen james yell at his wife and kids but have never seen him lay a hand on them. I have seen Alicia hit her kids and leave bruises (mostly spanking however).
    d) the reason Alicia weighs only 90 lbs is because she literally starves herself after giving birth (while breast feeding by the way). This is what she said.
    e) obviously Alicia couldn’t go wherever her husband went because he has been defending our nation in other countries.
    f) she couldn’t work because her mother was making her pay to watch the kids when her sister got her kids looked after for free. Alicia said this.
    4. a) Alicia claimed she was cheating on james at one point and asked for him to take the kids (this is while he was in iraq)
    b) something very common in our hometown is hunting…not torturing but hunting. Are you going to claim every person who hunts in the woods a torturer?
    c) generally quite a few hunters paint their faces when they hunt. If james was running around the yard he probably wasn’t alone (i.e. Alicia and him were probably just having a good time)
    d) Alicia has said things about her family being in trouble by the law
    e) the cat did not get its throat cut. They found it already dead with no apparent cause.
    f) james and Alicia did not live with tonya before they got married…they lived with james’ parents. Alicia was kicked out of her house for dating james in high school. She was living with them too.
    6. a) james’ jobs have included farmwork, military, sherrif’s department, firefighter, first responder/EMT, military, recruiter, bouncer…why should his parents hide behind that loyalty?
    7 a) the only clothing burned was james’
    9 a) james never wanted a child “aborted”
    10 a) threats came from alicia’s family. Alicia said this. She said they were trying to steal her children
    b) if someone is treated badly, does that give them permission to shoot the other person? She was sent to jail because she took things further than james ever took them. Who is the abuser?
    c)they did not move there from NC, they moved there from Alabama
    d) james has played with his children quite a bit
    e) how is james a dangerous person when he has trouble even sitting up now? You’re going to get a restraining order on someone who is paralyzed? (that makes no sense)
    f) Alicia has stated time and time before that james hasn’t beat her…she suddenly changes her mind after she shoots him?
    11 a) Alicia said something about abuse and was offered a lawyer but refused.
    b) a cell phone was given to her to cut back on the phone bill
    c) Alicia made the decision not to speak to her family because she didn’t want her children growing up in that environment.
    14 a) alicia’s family is not crazy, I agree but it’s not a good home either, especially when another grandchild’s teeth are rotting out at the age of 3 or 4
    15) again, Alicia is the one who made the choice not to talk to her own parents
    16) a) if you don’t know Alicia that well, I wouldn’t suggest making accusations for or against her
    b) alicia smashes bugs on the floor all the time as to help keep the house somewhat sanitized. She does care for her family ya know.
    18) why was Alicia provided with a lawyer but james was not?
    24) is it against the law to beat your husband? I’m not saying she beat him but she did put a bullet in him. I’m sure he would have preferred the beating however.
    27) she was just as capable to do things to her kids. (but maybe that’s just a mother’s way of ignoring/getting her kids attention?)
    30) you have proof that Alicia was abused? By her husband or by herself? I know for a fact she has hurt herself in the past.
    32) a) there aren’t any bruised on her body other than the ones from Childs play from her kids. (i.e. jumping and accidentally hitting her head or knocking noggins like kids tend to do at a young age)
    b) the car was both of theirs…and both of them used it, thus it wouldn’t make any sense for him to cut the tires.
    35) obviously no one saw your accusation because they would have come forward…how can you make such an accusation when the chain of events told by the police indicate no such occurrence happened?
    39) fist of all, it’s spelled sadistic…and second of all, what do you call a family who kicks a member, they claimed to love so much, out?
    42) obviously there are more people putting down james’ family than yours
    44) a) Alicia is not so crazy a person. She’s very responsible and is very devoted to her children
    b) james has no “X wife” yet.
    47) you are now calling Alicia crazy…it baffles me that anyone would call anyone else crazy without knowing them or their life story.
    55) more unreliable accusations…I could say again that Alicia once said something about finding another guy at one point but I guess I won’t mention that….
    59) if the kids saw nothing…then why is the last thing james remembers seeing is one of his children walking up near him looking at him?
    63) complete liar is a bit harsh. Everyone tells lies at some point, some more than others but Alicia is not a “complete” liar…not a good idea to make extreme accusations.
    64) according to the police records, Alicia did not act fast. James had enough time to pull out his own cell phone after falling after getting shot while in shock and Alicia did not attempt to make the call until he couldn’t finish dialing?
    66) the abuse wasn’t for the full 10 yrs. If you knew them that entire time you would know that.
    69) thank you
    75) it would make since not to use your real name with as much hatred as there is on this site
    111) how much do I have to stress that the only clothes that were burnt were james and that Alicia was the one burning them?

    Yeah, I’m tired of reading the same stuff and it’s getting a bit redundant. I’ll leave ya’ll to your arguing. God bless both Alicia and James. Lord knows I love them both and I’m really torn about what to think. I hope and pray that something good comes for the both of them.

  126. March 17, 2007 at 4:44 am

    47) you are now calling Alicia crazy…it baffles me that anyone would call anyone else crazy without knowing them or their life story.

    It is called sarcasm- and you are not the only one who knows how to do that.

  127. Corrections said,

    March 17, 2007 at 5:31 am

    sorry hsh….kinda caught up in the moment there. didn’t mean offense by it but i think i was just trying to emphasize that a lot of pple were calling her crazy when she really isn’t. forgive me please.

  128. March 17, 2007 at 6:03 am

    I understand that with the typed word, without the tone of voice it can be easy to misunderstand the tone that was meant. And typed words somehow seem harsher than the spoken word. Something that I as well as everybody else may need to remember. I do apoligize for the smart-aleck response though.

  129. someone who cares said,

    March 19, 2007 at 12:22 am

    Alicia is the most kind hearted person I know. Her children are number one in her life. I’ve known her for a long time she has always been told who and who not to talk to. I know she loved james but she figured she just couldn,t take it no more. I personally have never been abused so it,s hard to know what alicia,s going through. I think it,s wrong for man nor woman to lay hands on each other. I heard in a recent blog that James had a gun inside the home for protection but, i,m sure she didn,t think she had to be protected by her own HUSBAND. And for some of these entries these girls thinking James is gods gift to woman (pleeeeze). Alicia was still a teenager when they first got together so I guess she figured she couldn,t do better. But I think she wished she would have thrown that catch back in the river. I really don,t know why she stayed this long under her circumstances at the time I probably would have done the same thing .Alicia I know you and your family have a long road ahead but remember girl be stong for them beautful children of yours. Me and my family are in your thoughts love you!

  130. anwsers and response to connections said,

    March 20, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    a. connections how do you know there is not multiple guns in house, the gun was taken out of the truck by james neighbors seen and told police
    b. There are sick people who say Ilove you and then try to hurt you I know.
    c.Alicia has never hit her kids maybe on the butt but hardly james has always been a two sided person he doesnt like people to know hi business If he yells at her in public what about behind closed doors?
    d. she dont breastfeed anymore but like any mom you like too and the reason for not just alicia skinny but the kids too bc james would not put food in the house when alicia begged him instead he would spend it on clothes and shoes and hats to go out and get drunk in bars.
    e. defended what in what war. Tell me he went to iraq but never fought nothing
    f.alicia never wanted to feel she used any one thats why she would pay her mom to sit the children and the sisiter in law lives with her so she would help her son sit the kids like any great mom.
    4a.she did cheat and told her husband thats because she was being honest it was only bc he cheated many times in iraq and there are pictures and videos that will be shown in court.
    b.torturer,james,YES,its not hunting when someone see you cut a cats throat and laugh about it.
    d.No trouble with the law in the Peace family you can look that up
    e. was you there NO!but somone was there when he cut the cats throat he was not found like that.
    f.she and james lived w alicias family until they knew the person he was an asked him to live and alicia followed not knowing bc she was young kids do that.
    6a.why james parent say something to the press they are hinding bc of the shame the son did for years.
    7a. james burned alicia clohes and cut her jeans that he choked her with and alicia burned his things too.
    9a. He aborted several kids one using alicias credit so he wouldnt get in trouble an alicia covered for him.
    10a. never alicias family wanted to take the kids.
    b.the abuser James,alicia protected her and her children before he went that far, what else was his reason for bringin a gun in the house an putting it to her head.
    c.yes they did move from alabama and before that nc.
    d. when did he play with the kids yeah just a bit
    e. he has beat and threaten Alicia so much she is still scared of what he will do even if he is paralzed.
    f. you have no idea she didnt want him to get in trouble bc there was love for him and sometimes an abused person will try to cover up bc they feel they are ashamed of what is happening to them Iknow..
    11a.the lawyer they offered was not good she has the right to refuse thats her business not yours.
    b. a cell phone was given to her by his dad bc they know what was going on and said if you need to call us an thats when the family heard from her again james did not want her to have a phone.
    c.what enviroment? Alicia couldnt talk to her family she felt threaten bc he said that he would hurt her family if she contact them.
    14a. the 3 year olds teeth are not rotten the broke off when he was learning to walk he fell and they took him to the dentist and they said it is baby teeth others will come.
    15.she always tried to contact her family behind james
    16a. i know alicia very well like myself
    b.everyone smashes bugs
    18. james was Aliciawas not!
    24. your wife!If she could have beaten him she could have tried to fight back but she was scared.
    27.A DAM GOOD MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    30.yes there is alot of proof!by her husband she was beat.what she do fall down people do that sometimes!
    32.She doesnt play with her kids like that an the bruises that size on her back neck stomach arms face etc.. are not from kids.
    35. there were alot of people who spoke up an you will see.
    39.her family will always love her never stopped.
    42.(edited per HSH)
    44a. yes she is!!!!
    b. right.
    55. finding a guy!?!why bc the one she had was not good? That the only reason women look for other men.
    59.maybe when they took him in the heli he saw his kid
    64.that was fast if she was the one who ask where is your phone an called the police there are other things that happened that delayed the call by seconds you will know later.

    no matter what you or others say or think may be true or not so dont say if you dont have proof…….

  131. KY Point of View said,

    March 20, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    Talk about marathon responses that make you go…uhhh

    I know the tests are complete on the gun used to shoot James and it was not the one he kept in the truck. The one, by the way, that the police found still in the truck when they searched it.

    The gun used was the one that was kept in the apartment, in the storage room. Now who got it out is something only they know. The residue tested postive on Alicia and that gun.

    According to the records, a call was placed by a neighbor about the argument and then while the police were in route they received another call about shots fired. This call was from a neighbor, not Alicia. So there was a delay for what ever reason from when she shot James and when she placed the call stating she had shot him.

    Again, this time line will be played out in court. I am sure there is far more to this story than either side is stating in this or any other forum. Some of us have been asked to not discuss all we know in the public or press by the attorneys. Certain things are public record and not part of the trial.

    I can’t imagine being in Alicia’s shoes and facing prison time and losing my children. As a mom, I do understand that.

    I also can’t imagine being in Jame’s shoes and never walking again. Never being able to perform the job that he loves again.

    Some of this bashing is over things that happened 10 years ago. Now, I know that I am a different person now than I was 10 years ago. But maybe if all I had to beat someone with was decade old rumors, who knows. I have not seen or heard of any recent (within 2 years) of problems that can be proven by the police records. There was one call in January to the apartment, but it was James that was the victum, not Alicia. There was also an other call in Feb but again, Alicia was the one the call was made on, not James. I personally know two of their neighbors and they don’t understand where all of this is coming from. They too have been questioned by the investigators and police.

    I just don’t think that until the trial we will know what really happened. And I don’t know that it is really any business of anyone else’s. This was between James and Alicia. As a mom, my concern has always been for the children. Now that they have been made to return to Ky, I think things will move right along like the system is meant to work.

  132. family said,

    March 20, 2007 at 10:39 pm

    alicia can go wherever she wants as long as she is in court and keeps her apartment. why do people say she is made to stay in ky? I love you alicia and good luck i hope you and the kids are safer now.people need to stop saying untrue statements.

  133. aunt said,

    March 20, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    i know the kids are so happy and they are finally getting good food now that alicia is back and family can help her.

  134. gooble said,

    March 21, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    the kids were getting fed fine before-hand….lol…wow…what a waste of time typing anything about either james or alicia on here…it’s just going to be thrown out by the next person on here…just kinda makes me laugh…nothing on here is legit. have fun leading lives where you can walk. have fun living lives where you’re not trapped in a cage. have fun living lives where everything is PERFECT in your family. i’m glad to know there is such a thing as perfection because i was really beginning to wonder…

  135. KY Point of View said,

    March 25, 2007 at 2:00 am

    Some of the things are legit on here. Some things are just people venting, which is also one of the reasons for the venue.

    Some of the things that are legit:

    James will never walk again. He has nothing from the belly button down. No function of several systems. That is never going to change.

    Alicia admits to shooting James. In Kentucky, you can’t shoot someone in the back and call it self defense. She is looking at a minium 10 years (up to 20) for assault in the first degree. If they determine it was planned, then the sentencing guidelines are 20 to life. She only has one way out of the this and that is to plea deal.

    Alicia will still be walking and able to move around and have some type of normal life.

    I am waiting for the grand jury to meet again. This case is on the docket for them to hear for probable cause. There is no way she will not be indicted. All that has to be proven is that 1) a crime was probably committed (proven – a man was shot in the back) 2) The person the police charged probably did the crime (proven – she confessed) With both points proven and part of the public records, an indictment will be handed out.

    After that the wheeling and dealing begins with plea bargins.

  136. Update Please!!! said,

    April 3, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    Can someone please update me on this please!

  137. Annonymous said,

    April 4, 2007 at 9:14 am

    Thanks for the informative forum. I will leave. I will not tell anyone. I can see how things can escillate. I don’t have kids there isn’t any reason to say where I’m going. This will be a peaceful leaving. If nothing else I got that message.

    Bless you.

  138. April 4, 2007 at 11:06 am

    Ms. Smith. Do it quietly and carefully. Plan first, make contact with a DV agency to help you with the planning.

  139. Ky Point of View said,

    April 6, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    The update on this is that the Grand Jury meets next week to hear the case and issue indictments.

    Several other suits have been filed and these will be upcoming as well. The civil suits will late longer to get to court than the criminal ones.

  140. MsDalton said,

    April 6, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    He weighs twice as much as she does and is also a former drill sergeant and police officer, to include being a member of a SWAT team, so please, if you’re going to make stuff up at least bring something that is believable…

    The person who stated this hasn’t seen what I have!! I had a neighbors that fought a lot – but the WOMAN was doing the hitting and kicking and the man was holding her off or running. Guess what – he was a Corrections Officer – At that time she weighed about 300 lbs and him about 200lbs and she used to be a Corrections Officer also.

    I don’t know what they did behind closed doors but I know what they did in public view.

  141. Ky Point of View said,

    April 6, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    Thank you. People seem to belive that a man would not let a woman hit him. I have known men that were more abused than I would have ever belived possible and they stayed. Same mental effect as on women. Probably worse because they are men.

    I do know that the prosecutors office has stated that they have not been able to prove any of the abuse charges. There are no police reports, no medical records and no one other than her family that says they have seen any abuse. This is of course different from his side. Medical records, police reports and witness statements collaborate his claim of abuse from her.

    The grand jury will hear the case next week (maybe the following depending on the case load). For now, things are just moving along in the system.

    James has been moved to a VA facility to continue his treatment and rehab.

  142. Ky Point of View said,

    April 9, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    For those interested, you can see upcoming events scheduled for this legal case:

    Case Number: 07-CI-00889

    This is the civil suit filed last week.

  143. josh taylor said,

    April 10, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    MsDalton and KY Point of View

    I’m the one who said what you cut and pasted into your post, and you made my point again. I never said that men don’t get abused by women. In your example the woman weighed 300 lbs was a former corrections officer and was beating up the man. That is a little more believable than someone saying that Alicia was beating James up. Not just hitting James but beating him up. My point was that Alicia doesn’t even weigh 100 lbs and with James’ size and training it just doesn’t sound very believable. One would think that with James size and training that he would be able to subdue Alicia in order to protect himself from bodily harm. I’m not saying he had to hit her back either. There are ways to subdue someone without hitting them until they calm down.

  144. Ky Point of View said,

    April 12, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    True..however some may also then call that action abuse if it suits their point.

    Everything will be changing soon anyway. The grand jury will issue their indictment, the divorce and civil suits will be heading to court as well as the child services suit.

    I am sure the findings will be posted here as they are released.

  145. aunt said,

    April 17, 2007 at 2:16 am

    its all a surprize waiting and you people are bored……

  146. KatK said,

    April 17, 2007 at 6:33 am

    “We people” aren’t bored, as you put it aunt. We people are waiting patiently for any updates to dribble in. Why would you think such a thing? Why would you *want* to believe that people would have such an insulting attitude towards something important to you? Are you always looking for people to “cut” you like that? Maybe you should ask your counselor why that is a habit of yours,and work on unlearning it? You’d probably have a happier time of it if you did. Not meant to be rude at all, honestly baffled and wanting the best for you, aunt.

  147. uncle said,

    April 20, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    any yall know if grand jury done met? whad all them say?

  148. KatK said,

    April 27, 2007 at 10:06 pm

    Any news at all on how the court case is shaping up? *bump*

  149. Ky Point of View said,

    April 29, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    I haven’t heard of the grand jury indicment yet but she was served with divorce and custody papers several weeks ago. There is a 60 day wait here in Ky so that is where this case stands.

    From what I have learned, they are holding on the grand jury because of possible new charges based on Jame’s health and current complications.

  150. Question said,

    May 5, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    What is James’ condition at this time?

  151. Ky Point of View said,

    May 7, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    The indicment came down… Alicia was indicted for Assault in the first degree. She will be in court for charging on the 14th. This was the only charge that required indictment so the other charges will have to wait until Monday to be public.

  152. Ky Point of View said,

    May 16, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    Update: The trial starts on June 14th at 1:30pm for Assault in Covington, KY (Kenton Co) Court House.

  153. Ky Point of View said,

    June 1, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    There was a divorce/child custody hearing on Tuesday of this week since the 60 day wait is up. That should be coming to a final hearing within the next 30 days. Mediation is required although I can’t imagine James and Alicia coming to terms without the judge making the final decisions.

    Alicia’s trial is still set to start on the 14th at 130pm.

  154. Ky Point of View said,

    June 1, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    James had to undergo another surgery due to pressure points on his body. He is recovering but is still on complete bedrest. When he is allowed out of bed again, he will have to being his rehab all over since he has been recovering from the procedure for about a month. Man, he sure has a long way to go before he will be able to leave the VA center and start his life again and be able to take care of the children.

  155. Ky Point of View said,

    June 4, 2007 at 11:47 am

    Everything sure got quiet once the indictments came down.

  156. KatK said,

    June 4, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    Well, there isn’t much to say, opinions and hopes have already been expressed. It doesn’t do any good to keep arguing about it.

  157. MsDalton said,

    June 4, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    Josh – I guess I should have finished my story. The neighbor where the woman abused the man and she was bigger than him – well a while back she had surgery and was about a hundred pounds when HE SNAPPED and became the abuser and killed her. My point was family and friends where saying “no way could she have ever beat him she only weighted 100 lbs” I mean it’s like they act as if I never knew them when I was next door from the beginning – tho not at the end…

    Nonetheless, many times the victim does not want to hit back but a person can slide into sanity and eventually do the “ultimate”..

  158. Ky Point of View said,

    June 5, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    True on both posts.

  159. Ky Point of View said,

    June 15, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    Just an update:

    The pretrial hearing on the 14th was passed directly to a trial date of Sept 25th. Another pretrial date of Sept 10th will be for motions with the jury selection beginning on the 25th.

    The child custody hearing begins on 7/19.

  160. Question said,

    June 18, 2007 at 11:40 pm

    Ky Point of View,

    I would just like to thank you for your objectiveness to this matter. This is very emotional for alot of parties. It has been nice to come here to read your posts to get updates. Again, Thanks.

  161. Ky Point of View said,

    June 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    Thank you. This is so heart wrenching for so many.

  162. well said,

    July 20, 2007 at 6:08 am

    what happened with the child custody hearing thursday (19th)???

  163. Ky Point of View said,

    July 20, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    Because James is still on bed rest in the hospital following surgery for pressure sores, temp custody was given to Alicia with the stipulation that she remain in KY and that the children be allowed to see their father.

    Alicia called and made arrangements with James’ parents for them to see the children and take them to James. The excitment he experienced this morning was overwhelming. I am glad that he got the time with the children. They went to him without holding back and all fell into his arms. He was so touched and thrilled that the children all remembered him and they were so excited too! James said words could not explain the feeling he had when Sarah came up to him and hugged him saying I love you daddy! James and James Jr played ball and Sarah got to push dad around in the wheelchair. The visit was precious and way to short!

    Alicia was not awarded any spousal support or child support as this is only a temp custody decision which was stressed by the judge.

    James was allowed to leave the hospital to go to court. This was the first time he had seen Alicia since the shooting. I can’t imagine what all was running through his mind. The same for Alicia I guess. It would have had to have brought everything rushing in on her to see exactly the damage she caused by shooting James.

    James is now allowed off bed rest for 1 hour a day for physical training. He will be working hard to rebuild his strength so he can be released from the hospital before the trial in Sept.

  164. Kathleen said,

    July 26, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    I just wanted to say you and your family are in my prayers. Please call me if there is anything I can do for you!
    Kathleen Smith

  165. Ky Point of View said,

    July 28, 2007 at 12:18 am

    James will begin training next week. He was allowed a day pass today in order to get out for a few hours. He looked pale and thin but in good spirits.

    Hopefully he will be able to leave the hospital by the end of September and set up a home for the himself and the children. He is certainly going to have his hands full with three little ones and him in a wheelchair.

    September 25th is closing in fast. Jury selection is expected to take one day with the trial not taking more than two.

    I so would wish that this family could get a “do over” if God permitted them. A slpit second decision has changed the lives of so many people. The fall out of this will continue for a long time. A lifetime for many of them.

  166. July 28, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    Ky Point of View, thanks for the updates on James’ condition and on what is happening with the case. It is good to hear that he is going to recover, though I wish he was going to be able to walk.
    Unfortunately most of these are split second decisions made in rage and anger, without consideration of the fact that there are no ‘do-overs’.

  167. Ky Point of View said,

    August 6, 2007 at 10:06 am

    James is progressing in his physical therapy. He is getting around alot better and is being given day passes to leave the VA to see how he does in the real world with getting in and out of a vehicle, restaurants, etc. I understand they are estimating a late Sept release but no one can say for sure.

    Being able to see his children has done more for his recovery than anything. Since the last court date, when he was granted visitation, he has been able to see the children a couple of times each week. This has been a wonderful movitator. He missed them so much and I am thankful the court finally stepped up and handled this portion of the proceedings. The baby is still recovering from his medical issue but all the children seem happy and thrilled to be spending time with Daddy!

  168. Ky Point of View said,

    August 11, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Things are still progressing for James. He is allowed out of bed now and spends most of his time in rehab. He is pushing hard for an early release. He looks good, but pale and very thin.

    His smile has returned and it is because of the amount of time he is getting to spend with the children. All three of them get so excited when they see him. It is a real touching sight to see him with the children and to see how much they love each other.

  169. Ky Point of View said,

    August 16, 2007 at 12:04 am

    Quick update on the trials and cases.

    The final divorce hearing is set for 9/12

    Scheduled Events
    DOMESTIC 9/12/2007 11:30 AM 5A

    The trial was moved back until 11/6 since plea bargins are being considered.

    Scheduled Events
    PRETRIAL CONFERENCE 10/22/2007 01:30 PM 7A
    JURY TRIAL 11/6/2007 09:00 AM 7A

    The civil suit is pending outcome of the criminal charges.

    James is hoping to be out of the hospital within the month if all goes well. With the final hearing coming up he wants to be able to take custody of the children as per the temp custody order issued last month. Even with the criminal trial being pushed back, the divorce and custody should be settled soon. Both James and Alicia have other people in their lives now and hopefully they will both be able to make something of the lives they have left to live out.

    Personally I hope Alicia will settle this with a plea deal and not take this to trial. From the evidence and statements of the witness’ I can’t see this turning out but one way. Of course no one can claim to know how a jury will swing. But in this case the evidence of premeditation is growing and growing.

  170. Ky Point of View said,

    August 19, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    Does anyone have an update on Alicia’s surgery and cancer? I was told that she let James know that he would have to take the children asap as she was having surgery for ovarian cancer the week after labor day.

    I sure hope she doesn’t have it and the tests are giving false results. This was the case with me. They did a complete hysto and then came back and said,
    Oh, it wasn’t cancer after all, just growths.” Good thing I was done having children.

  171. Ky Point of View said,

    September 9, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    James lost his granmother this week. He was able to travel to see her before she passed which was hard on him both physically and emotionaly. I am glad he was able to make the trip.

    The divorce final hearing is this week on the 12th. James is working hard to secure a home for when he will be discharged. No word on when he will be able to completely leave the VA. For now he is allowed passes to learn to move around in the outside world.

  172. Ky Point of View said,

    September 17, 2007 at 9:53 am

    Update on things…

    James is out of the hospital for now. He will be taking therapy as an out patient for now.

    The divorce was pushed back until Nov, just a few days before the trial starts for Alicia.

    Nothing was brought up at the divorce hearing on Alicia’s cancer or treatments or if it was/is cancer.

    The children got to spend time with James and his parents this week and see here they will be living with dad.

    The hardest thing in all of this is the children. They have to be so confused and befuddled. They talk about when “mom goes away” they will be with dad, but since “dad is in his chair” things won’t be the same. It is tough to see and hear them trying to work out all the details in their minds.

  173. Ky Point of View said,

    October 19, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    Everything is still pending. Alicia is trying to get plea deal with no jail time and James is getting settled into real life from a wheelchair.

    I just can’t fathom Alicia feeling she should be able to walk away from this with probation. She tried to kill a man!

    The defense is trying to get the trial pushed back again claiming they need more time to build a defense. The first continuance was because the judge had a conflict in trial schedules. Who knows when this will actually be over.

  174. Ky Point of View said,

    October 28, 2007 at 11:37 am

    Pretrial date to set the next trial date is Nov 19th. This probably won’t go to trial until after the first of the year.

    James is looking good. He is getting around better. The winter will be tough with trying to get his chair in and out of the snow/ice. Here’s hoping for a mild winter this year.

    Alicia looks good too. She has a new boyfriend and they look cute together.

  175. Captain Obvious said,

    October 29, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    So, Alicia has a new boyfriend. I would assume that this is not a new relationship and was going on before the shooting. Seriously, only a moron would get into a relationship with someone who had shot their husband in the back.

    I would hope that her extra-marital affair would cast even more doubt on her claim that the shooting was some how self defense or battered wife syndrome.

    Just my 2 cents.

  176. October 29, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    Aren’t you assuming Captain Obvious? I mean I haven’t seen anything yet that the affair was occurring before the shooting. The shooting occurred what- 8 months ago? And she has been out on bond for some time. So it isn’t impossible for her to have begun a relationship in that time.

  177. Ky Point of View said,

    October 31, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    No, as I understand it, this is a new relationship. Why not date her? There can be no long term plans made, so why not just have fun?

    Anyway, she seems to be happy with this new guy. Jail time will tough on her either way.

    I am glad that they both seem to be able to get along for the children. James is thrilled to get the children on the weekends for now. It won’t be long before the children are with him full time.

  178. November 1, 2007 at 3:00 am

    I am glad they are able to come together for the kids also. It is what is best for the kids, they are able to learn that no matter what both of their parents still love them.
    And I am sure that it will also allow James to ease into becoming a full time single parent, meanwhile allowing him time for his doctor’s appointments and therapy as well as time to become more proficient at coping with his disabilities.

  179. Kathleen said,

    January 21, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    I have been thinking of you and your family. I just want to say that I hope everything turns out well for you and if you need me I am here. Take care girl. I still have you in my prayers.

  180. Kathleen said,

    February 24, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    …does anyone have a update?

  181. samantha said,

    February 28, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Hi everyone, I hear that James is doing well and is planning on getting married soon as the divorce is over. He is able to drive again.
    As for Alicia, she is doing well and so are the children. I think they said that they were going to put off court again until this summer.(due to more evidence) The judge granted Alicia custody of the children and child support.
    She has not recieved any support from James since this all happened so from what I hear he will have to pay the back support from last year also.

  182. Robin said,

    February 28, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    I just wanted to ask, if James was dating someone else at the time and he claimed he wasn’t living at the apartment with Alicia anymore, how come his clothing was there for her to burn? From what people are saying they were separated for around a year. I am not being mean or anything, I was just wondering.

  183. Bill said,

    March 14, 2008 at 8:24 am

    James and Alicia were not separated, the only side of the story you get on this blog is from James side.

  184. Stephanie said,

    June 3, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Yes, and I think that people are attacking a woman that may have been abused without knowing her or her side of the story. From the news James and Alicia were having problems months before the shooting. Police were called several times by Mrs. Bartholomew. With James being in the army and a police it seems like he would have called for backup if she was this crazy. I don’t know what exactly happened but you can’t call anyone crazy until you actually know them. That is just wrong. Never judge a book by its cover. I just hope that if this man abused her that he will be the one going to prison.
    It is very sad that this has happened to a family.

  185. Crystal said,

    June 3, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    I know James and he is not what he seems. He is like the devil wearing a angel costume. Hides the bad and tries to cover it with good. Hopefully people will notice this.

  186. bill said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:21 am

    any updates on the trial? or anything going on with this case?

  187. Ky Point of View said,

    September 21, 2008 at 2:23 am

    The trial was pushed back until Nov.

  188. Amy said,

    November 3, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    The trial is set for November 5th 2008. It was proven that James was NOT shot from behind. He was shot standing facing Alicia. He and the news were saying he was shot in his back. Just because the bullet went to his back does not mean he was shot from behind. It has confused alot of people. The bullet came in from the front of his body. James was ordered to pay child support but has not paid any yet.

  189. Ky Point of View said,

    November 6, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Amy you were obviously not in the courtroom, nor are you aware of the details of the financial issues of this case.

    Everyone should wait until both sides present their case. The jury will have to be the ones to decide what really happened.

  190. Ky Point of View said,

    November 13, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Today at 4:15pm the Kenton County Court found Alicia not guilty on all counts.

  191. the truth said,

    November 14, 2008 at 1:26 am

    The pictures of the wounds on james body shows clearly the bullett went in from the rear there were no wounds from the front of the body i was there in the ER

  192. Chance said,

    November 15, 2008 at 5:21 am

    WOW! Lots of comments on this case. But since she is found not guilty what can you say. Well Interesting comments and article! Thanks!

  193. Ky Point of View said,

    November 15, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Proving past abuse was not the goal of the defense. They were and did prove that in that one moment in time, Alicia felt that she needed to defend herself. There was nothing more proven. Both sides had a lot to say about how each other had behaved over the years.

    No matter what led up to that night, several facts are true.

    1. The couple argued in public and the police were called.
    2. The argument continued back at the apt where a not one but several guns were available for either party to get their hands on.
    3. The argument ended with a shot being fired by Alicia.
    4. James was shot in the back side of his arm and through the side with damage to the spinal cord that will never be repaired.
    5. The jury felt that there was enough “charge” in the air for Alicia to feel threatened.
    6. In Kentucky, you have the right to defend yourself, your home and or your family when threatened.

    So now they both have to move on. James will always be in a wheel chair, unable to move from his waist down. The children will have to live with what happened and growing up with divorced parents.

    I’m sorry, my personal feelings in the case aside, the saddest thing is that the children had to even be involved in this type of activity. Little children shouldn’t even know that things like this can happen.

  194. amy said,

    November 16, 2008 at 12:12 am

    Yes, it is very bad that children have to know that their mom had to shoot their dad to protect her life. The truth is out and I am glad. Hopefully this man will not hurt another woman. I hear that men like that never change and hopefully he does not get away with it.

  195. amy said,

    November 16, 2008 at 12:19 am

    KY point of view, You were wrong and said hateful things to people in this blog. I read through and saw what you wrote. Don’t you feel like a idiot? Maybe you don’t know your friend like you thought. The jury had enough proof that this woman was abused.

  196. Sandy said,

    November 17, 2008 at 12:52 am

    I just started reading these comments after the trial was over. I was on the jury and want you to know that things DO NOT always appear to be what they seem. When this trial began I always had it in the back of my mind that any person that shoots another is guilty, period. Not the truth. When the commonwealth first presented the evidence, I thought there is no way this woman will get away with this. But I realized that she had to be considered innocent until they proved that she was guilty, not the other way around. They did not need to prove that she shot James, she admitted to that. What they needed to prove is that she did it out of anger, that she planned to kill him. They couldn’t prove that. There was plenty of proof that she had been abused and for a very long time. That she had been beat down mentally and physically by this man and felt she had no other recourse. Just remember when you judge someone like Alicia with what you hear and read in the paper that some day you could be wrongly accused and you would want your side of the story heard before people judge you. I hope that Alicia can now get on with her life and put this behind her. I am sure that even though she was found innocent, she will feel this for the rest of her life. As for James, I pray for him to go on and learn from his mistakes. It is just not right to treat another person the way he treated Alicia. If anyone out there reading this is being abused, don’t wait until someone gets hurt or killed. Get help now.

  197. A word or two said,

    November 18, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    I hope Alicia feels this for the rest of her life Sandy…I really do. I’m sure in the end, it’ll come back to haunt her like it should. Like you said, you should seek help before someone gets hurt or killed. I should think that’s obvious. I’m sure James has learned for his mistake of marrying her. I’m sure of that.

  198. November 19, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Well the truth for everything finally came out. NOT GUILTY and alicia is moving back home in couple weeks with custody of her three children. On the blobs before, I sat in the court room and evidence backed up all her truth. and the kids yes they were in the apartment but never was near or even witness anything. For the fact yes about a month after the incident there was finally papers filed for a divorce. Never was it before that time. But James is caught up inall his lies and more lies after another. Alicia god bless you and your kids and have a great trip back home!!!*smiles*

  199. Alicia said,

    November 19, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    To all that have been praying for me during this long road THANK YOU. ooops caps. My family is the best family you could ever wish to have. Parents, sisters, brothers,cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents, and also all the friends that stood behind me. I was always tought to never hold a gruge even if that person treated you really bad because it will consume you. Yes I have said I was sorry to James the way he is now but under the way that night in questions was I was terrifed and I hope that no one every has to go through that and if so my thoughts and prays are with you. Yes too. I have had custody but received custody yesterday where my kids and I can move to North Carolina with no problems. I graduate from nursing school in December and plan to move. I just wanted to comment on something I just read: no NONE of his military things were burned and I have the most up right respect for the guys that are defending our country. My thoughts and prays go out to them everyday. and there was another, I tried to leave him serveral (many) times his parents even know that, but when I tried to leave he would always say that I am his wife and I have to deal with it and one time is when he volunteered to go to IRAQ for 3 months to get money so I could go home , but when he came home he wouldn’t let me and got me pregnant. All the kids are his and he knew that then and still knows that.I am away from everything I went through with him and I just pray for you now. They always say a person never changes.

  200. a word or two said,

    November 19, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    if that last comment is true alicia i hope guys know to stay away from you.

  201. Jessica Warren said,

    November 20, 2008 at 2:15 am

    I am so glad you are coming home. I can’t wait to see you girl! Congrats on the case! Love Jess

  202. Sharon said,

    November 20, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    You still trying to put down a innocent woman. You must have a boring life. Why don’t you put your name instead of KY point of view and a word or two. Everyone knows you are the same person by the way you make up things and try to put down anyone and everyone. Hopefully Alicia will find a great man that will love her and the kids. And James Bartholomew needs to go to prison so he does not hurt another woman. He is a liar.

  203. Carla said,

    November 20, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Anyone has the right to protect their life. Others should not look down on them. There are women that are being abused and even killed by their husbands. James produced the gun. If someone points a gun at you, what are you going to think? I don’t blame Alicia for doing what she did.

  204. bill said,

    December 11, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Glad to see Alicia was cleared of this. So I guess KY Point of View…AKA James girlfriend will stop posting her riduculous comments on here.

  205. the truth said,

    December 25, 2008 at 4:35 am

    WOW.. it’s nice to know in KY you can shoot an unarmed man in the back in a room. She clearly had a path out. She even set fire to the clothes.James was found on his back in his room not able to move. And for the juror, I’m glad to see you endorse a woman who left her kids out in the cold to start an altercation, clearly shoot in the back so she wasn’t in fear for her life. James had been in Iraq, Korea, Haiti, Japan. So why didn’t she file papers then. Have you ever woundered why from person to person her story changed so many time. I know of at least 5 diffrent ones that she has told her “friends” I actually used to be one of them. When a mutual friend of ours came up to me and tod me a diffrent story i began questioning. Ibeleived Alicia at frist but after sitting in court and seeing what the judge wouldn’t allow for the prosecution to present. Kind of like the Army frist had findings that james was a fault. After reciving evidance from the national crime lab they over turned the ruling and found James to be cleared. That was not able to be brought into the court room. Found that to be odd. After all the comments about James not ever being a good person, You should read his metals that he has received. One thing Alicia told me she would ever do was go watch him receive his awards. For alicica by her own words said a person will never change. So I guess watch out who ever hooks up with her b/c she will cheat on you w/ girls and guys.

  206. Jaimie Martin said,

    January 3, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    After seeing everything read/said about this relationship. I personally think that they both were really young, and had way to much pressure put on them to early. With Alicia being controlled as it seems by James. I do realized that yes she could have divorced him while he was away or she had plenty of oppourtunities well hello I think we can all see that she loved him. A love for someone that hurts you is the worst kind of love! It is a mental twisted love that it seems he had for her in the end. And for his girlfriend isn’t she almost 10 years younger than him? Sounds like she is young and confused. She was only there toward the end of there relationship where he voluntary cheated, and had a relationship aside from his marriage. I think that is called Adultery. But, to each his own! I’m sure sometimes Alicia was a perfect wife. But, in the end what happened, happened leave them alone. After 10 years, and this I’m sure that they both just want it over with for their childrens sake. And for Karma I think it has already come back both ways!

  207. the truth said,

    February 15, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    I find it funny how everyone makes Alicia to be a perfect wife. In court Documents there is e-mail that she stated she was w/ someone else while their daughter was in the bed next to her while she was having sex w/ a perfect stranger while james was in Iraq. I dont think I would be willing to endanger my child for revenge on assumptions. I find that pretty sick. She is now saying she is a nurse however she has no registration or certification in a state. Kind of funny. Not shocked, her lies contenue. James was unarmed and shot in the back “BILL” that is not self defense. If he produced the gun why was she the one not shot. James has never been charged, so if that was the case then he would have been. I find it hard to beleive that someone in law enforcement would turn their back on an armed person. James was cleared by the Army in any wrong doing after all the evidence came back, unfortenitlly it came after the trial was over. For someone to hunt someone down and try to run them over w/ a car ” i witnessed it” and james just turned away so he wouldn’t get hit when Alicia was assaulting him all he did was turn away. It was also brought into light Alicia was fired from a job for fighting as well. Glaxo smith cline. The family history is real great also her grand father in prison for drugs, along w/ uncles and a father who has been arrested for DUI (more than onece) real role models there. James will never recover from his wounds while she prances around after lieing in court.

  208. Hurt GF said,

    February 15, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Just remeber OJ was found not guilty also but we all know the truth there. The juiors are all the ones who weren’t smart enough to get off of jury duty. By the way to Jurior your not suppose to be bloging it was suppose to be non bias however we all know now that you looked for info outside of the court room to influence you. I have been involved in many cases over the years mainly murder. I’m a law professer and have seen the cases over and over. I’m not saying james wasn’t wrong in any way but I don’t know how you came back w/ a non guilty verdict.. Yes I sat through it and there are several times Alicia’s story didn’t match. You must have heard a diffrent testimony than I did. All I got to say is she was a good acter. She could have had a carrer in it. Turning on and off the tears and then going outside laughing and smoking. Yea it was one sided in there. Think god most of my trial cases I defend is in Kenton County. I can get anyone off there. Girl you got lucky. Att @ law

  209. angela said,

    March 5, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    James is able to walk now! What a miracle. All of a sudden when court is over with.

  210. Ky Point of View said,

    March 5, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    James would give anything to walk again. He can’t and won’t ever have that option.

    The trial is over, yes. The nightmare will never be over.

  211. Medical professional said,

    March 17, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Angela are you really that stupid? Someone w/ a spinal cord injury CAN NOT I REPEAT CAN NOT! JUST up and walk again. James is still cofined to a wheel chair and cand not stand up on his own free will when the spine is severed the central nervous system is cut in half. James will never be able to walk again. He can’t feel or move anything from his bellybutton down. His T-10,9, and 8 vertabrea was damaged. If he could walk he would be able to work. But he can’t. I can’t beleive someone would be so stupid to say that after a doctor has testified to james injuries that you would make a comment like that. Even w/ the stem cell research they haven’t been able to allow someone (w/ a complete injury like james has ) to be able to walk again. James was on bed rest confined to a bed, Not able to get up at all b/c he couldn’t walk. He has pressure sores b/c of that. I don’t think someone would got to that extent to fake that serious of an injury. James still has the bullet inside of him and the x-rays prove complete damage to the spine. So before you go shouting of lame and stupid remarks like that GET YOUR FACTS STRIGHT. Oh by the way I got more than 20 years in the medical field. So yes I know what I’m talking about and Yes I do see jame in the hopital from time to time trying to help other injuried people out b/c that is his nature to try to help people. I have even seen him fall out of his wheelchair to try to keep an older lady from falling. James had to be picked up to be put back in his wheelchair he didn’t do it on his own. James is injuried for the rest of his life thats why the Army is Medically retired him. So why don’t you learn some facts befrore making yourself look stupid. James would love to be able to stand up, but he cant and won’t ever be able to on his own.

  212. Army guy said,

    March 17, 2009 at 10:52 am

    After review of all evidance james is found not to be the agressor of what happened. We couldn’t get all the evidance back before the civil trial. There is evidance of Alicia having a violent past. On Ft. Bemming there is a report of Mrs. Bartholomew attempting to push a car out of the way of a gas pump using her car b/c the other car got there 1st. The victim refused to press charges out of respect of Sgt. Bartholomew. There is a road rage incident where Mrs. Bartholomew tried to cause an accident b/c a “car cut her off” Sgt. Bartholomew has recived awards for saving lives and has not and will not be charged w/ domestic violence. There is not physical evidence showing Sgt. Bartholomew ever abuse Mrs. Bartholomew. There are no reports in the Army records through out Sgt. Bartholomew supporting such actions. The only reports are ones Mrs. Bartholomew made clam to after the inncident. There is one report that she tried to clam prior but she retracted her statement saying she was mad at Sgt bartholomew. She was informed that she could be charged w/ filing a faluse report. However no other action was taken. Prior to the incident Sgt. Bartholomew’s commander went out and spoke w/ Mrs. Bartholomew w/o Sgt. Bartholomew being there and she made the statement “james has never hurt me, and he would never do anything to me. She went own to say that they were planning on a divorce but there was no history of domestic violence and was just looking to recive help w/ the cost of moving back to NC.” Sgt. Bartholomew I wish we could have gotten the evidance back intime for the trial. Good luck to you and thank yoiu for your service to this country, God speed!

  213. Anonymous said,

    May 21, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Hurt GF,

    Are you kidding me? A law professor? You can’t even spell the word (I believe you typed “professer”) and your grammar is tragic. I think the only case you have ever defended is your case of Milwaukee’s Best. If you have a law license (which I highly doubt), it must have come from a Cracker Jack box. Nobody would believe you telling them that you are an attorney if your tongue came notarized. Drink another one, moron.

  214. william said,

    September 21, 2009 at 1:48 am

    any updates on how either parties are doing?

  215. April said,

    November 2, 2009 at 12:53 am

    The truth was out in court.You can see the evil in James’s eyes and there was plenty of evidence that proved that he was abusive. I can’t believe that he says he is a christian. My dad is a preacher and I know you are supposed to forgive but this man is getting away with alot of things that would get alot of people behind bars. I saw James Bartholomew driving and I heard that he totaled his handicaped van with the children in there. I don’t believe the kids are safe with him. He don’t only have physical issues but mental also. He accuses anyone and everyone that talks to Alicia of something that he somehow came up with and is always talking about calling the police. I guess he has kept so much hidden about his self and thats why he is so angry. His girlfriend and him are going around telling people that they are going to do something to Alicia. She tries to stay away from them but he calls harrassing her. Is this how women are supposed to live even when they get out of these kind of abusive relationships? I told her that everytime she has to meet him to take the kids for their visit with their dad that she should have the police with her. His daughter told me that her daddy walks when they are at his house. She said He even goes swimming with them. Something sounds fishy. Huh? Are you people calling their little girl a liar? I think the doctors should seriously check his condition again.

  216. April said,

    November 2, 2009 at 1:06 am

    Oh and Alicia’s family should sue James and Beth for slander. I know people in her family and they are really nice and respectful people. They don’t do drugs and her dad don’t drink and has never been locked up. They don’t bother anyone. They go to work and come home and I have never been disrespected or felt uncomfortable around them. That is what I am talking about. James has found someone just as messed up in the head and they come up with lie after lie just like in court.

  217. Slackjawed over comments said,

    December 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Yes, I am totally amazed at some of the comments that continue on after this issue.

    James can not walk, will never walk and can only “stand” with the aid of his wheelchair. Are you kidding me?

    Yes he can swim…..we all float in the water and with the use of aids most disabled do enjoy the water because it is the only place that they can “feel” anything like normal.
    James was cleared from any wrong doing by the military and has since retired with benefits. That alone should clear up the confusion about whether the military thought he was the guilty party. They were not able to even go after the charge of adultry because they were NOT living together and were separated. People that are going through a divorce are allowed to move on and start another relationship. Maybe not a good idea, but not something that is illegal.
    Fast forward several years now…. James has gotten married again…to Beth, the same woman he was dating when this whole thing started. This says a lot for both of them. Most women would have walked away, however, she stood by him. She has to be one amazing woman to stay committed, love and care for the children that are part of the package and even stay around to take the abuse that was dealt to her in the media and on avenues such as this.
    As for the children….they visit between the two parents like most divorced children.
    Alicia….she has moved on too.
    Everyone else?…… move on with your lives and leave these people alone. They have all suffered far more than you will ever know. Their families have suffered as well. Start off the new year with a new cause and let this one go.

  218. plug32 said,

    November 22, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Hey, I saw James on a hunting channel named (lethal) on the outdoor channel. He was a wounded vet that got to go on a hunt. He said he was shot in Northern Ky at a recruiters office?? His wife now is beth, Is this the same person???

  219. smarterthansome said,

    February 21, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    One and the same.

    And he’s in trouble again.

  220. melissa bay said,

    February 22, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    It will be interesting for anyone who is following this story to know that his current wife (mentioned in post 217), is also now the victim of his abuse. When her friends and family finally confronted her about it, she did leave him. This event was the catalyst to his violent out of control rampage where he: threatened to kill her, her family, & himself, followed her family from n.c. to ky, was stopped by the police, had all of his firearms taken away, was admitted to a psych ward on 72 hour involuntary hold, and now has court charged pending in 2 states. How can a paralyzed man abuse anyone? I wondered the same thing, but we all know it starts with isolation, then degredation, lastly physical. One accusation of domestic violence can be doubted, but now another one? Definitely not an honorable vet.

  221. No one knows said,

    February 23, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Although, the last two post really have nothing to do with the original trial. People don’t change, history does seem to repeat itself.

    Thankful that Beth was able to get out of the situation.

  222. LL said,

    March 25, 2011 at 7:31 am

    Well I must say I have never seen a man so heart broken as I have James. It took me a while to get the court transcripts of the civil hearing NOT CRIMINAL as the other post suggest. Beth testified that James was on the floor when he abused him. Why didn’t she call 911, or just stand up. This Ill cop who faied to make a statement for the court leaves ?s. What realsionship did she have w/ him? From the way it read was that the Phone text was presented in court by James saying that if he came up there and went into the hospita that they “the famiy” would come and talk. Beth and her mother disputed this but was not able to prove oter wise. This seems to be a case of the judge falling for drama instead of evidence. Why would a man being accused present evidence and want law enforcement testifying. I also under stood that Beth was a lost prevention person at some point, but could not handle a man stuck on the floor. WOW she must not have been very good. I also have asked around and from several ppl I have talked to from KY and NC Beth talked about how her mom was very controling and wanted to see her marraige fail. She also talked about how when she got mad at James she would put his wheel chair out of reach. MMM who was abusing who. It seems ppl have forgotten there are two sides to every story. I’m not saying James was right in everything. I’m just saying there was a better way of dealing w/ the situation other than coming in the middle of the night and taking Beth away. A woman who claims to be such a hard core christian wants to destory a marriage instead of trying to repair it. I also got info on the traffic stop in KY. The two guns James had were in the trunk of his van out of reach. James has always been known to carry a gun or two. This time he didn’t have it on him. I guess Beth can live up to what she all ways bragged about being a “home wrecker.” this is coming from what several ppl has said she told them. At 1st I was all set to go against James on this however. The evidence and what other people who know the 2 of them have said point toward over reaction at this point. Beth was James’ care giver and left him never to return or even try to talk things out. Had she talked to him one on one after the fact there might be a diffrent view. I see a man who at this point knows his wife hates him and is so heart broken he has had to wear a heart monitor and still loves his wife. I honestly don’t know if he will servive this. He refuses to even talk to another girl and says he is still married in the eyes of God. He wouldn’t even talk bad about Beth. He said ” there is no use in giving any bad details about the woman he loves, because he would rather her be happy than to live him self.” Beth must be mighty happy living it up while a man is slowly suffering. For all the disput that I’m sure is to come after this post. I talked to ppl from both sides and Beth and her family refused to talk! I got the court papers as well as people they both know in common. Several people wanted to take Beths side but she wouldn’t talk to them afterwards or just set out to trash James insead of talking it out.

  223. Katrina W. said,

    April 5, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    You want to talk and get things straight?

    Send me an email and we’ll set it up.

    Putting stuff on a blog where people on either side can’t defend themself, only he/she said?

    Let’s go. I’ll talk to you.

    My name is Katrina and I am Beth’s sister. I was THERE when Beth left him. I was in the van that night. You want to talk, and set things straight? Send me a message with your name and number, etc. Maybe you can fill me in on your vast knowledge and opinions.

  224. No one knows said,

    April 5, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    Hey Katrina… didn’t know your mom was a “hard core Christian” nice! Sounds like she was a concerned mother trying to protect one of her daughters. Weren’t pictures given to her showing bruises from a recent beat down? I believe texts were also shown to her where Beth claims she was afraid for her life.

    Didn’t the cop that testified in court get a report filed on them for failure to handle the domestic abuse call correctly? Wasn’t a domestic order issued by the Judge in NC based on the beating from Jan 16th as well as the fact that James chased Beth back to KY, even after he was told that Beth would call him in a few days once she had time to think and to speak with a counselor?

    MMMMMM….. sounds like a mother who cares…nothing to do with being a Christian.

  225. Katrina W. said,

    April 8, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Funny that I haven’t gotten a response yet. I’m still waiting though.

    Also, thought I’d try to help my sister get a copy of the transcripts (thanks for the idea btw). You can’t get them in writing.

    Hmm..only on an audio CD, that you have to pay to download a program to use.

    I suppose you could type it out yourself, but, that’s a lot of work. I am in awe of your mad skills.

    Patiently waiting for you to set me straight,
    Katrina W.

  226. No one knows said,

    April 14, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    I don’t believe Melissa said anything about criminal charges.. the statement was “has court charged pending in 2 states”….. since then…2 domestic protection orders have been issued. That fact alone should speak for itself.

  227. Someone close said,

    April 24, 2011 at 12:10 am

    It seemed no one would listen to me and now that their is someone in my shoes maybe things would be looked at. I am out of that situation but my kids aren’t, Any day though I would give my life to safe them. They are my world. God knew the truth and that is why things work out the way they do. James WAS LIVING AT The address with me and was telling me that I was his wife and had to deal with things and not letting me leave. I know the military sticking up again for him or his lies he tells. LOL. One day all his lies and the way he hurts and treats people they will see and he Will have to stand before god one day.

  228. Someone close said,

    May 4, 2011 at 3:57 am

    I don’t know who is calling themselves “Corrections said”, But how many lies do you have to keep naming because where you got your info is off the wall. I guess you had nothing better to do that count the lies you could come up with. Alicia is safe and happy with her Kids and they all can sleep knowing that there is safety and love for all. God does look out for his children in different ways, the way James treated Alicia he had god’s judgment and time to change, but look at his new wife and him now. He hasn’t changed. He always plays so innocent and sweet but don’t turn your back because the devil comes out. War hero HAHAHAHA! almost three months in Iraq on volunteering for it because he was sleeping around on Alicia. There are REALLY hero’s out there that doesn’t beat their wife and child, physically, mentally…and that stay a world alot longer. Also Alicia is beautiful and small but she wasn’t always like that, all the money spending from James sleeping around and buying dinners for all the women he was out with there was never no food in the house and Alicia would let her kids eat before she would. She IS a great mother and other mothers around would let Alicia watch their kids and commented her all the time, even James would say that she was a perfect mother, before and after all this. James on the other hand wasn’t never around for holidays, b-days… even his own sons birth because he was drunk and with another woman while he told Alicia and his parent that traveled over 100’s of miles to see him, he was working. Yes working the sheets and bars. Alicia is a sweet and respectful and very open hear ted person. Alicia before meeting James was so out going and loved life and everything about it. But then after meeting James, Alicia is a different person. She is quite and doesn’t say much and mainly because she was scared too. She didn’t know when to talk, to smile, to laugh and if it wasn’t something James liked then she knew that he was going to do something (hurtful) to her. Alicia moved to North Carolina and James followed and got married. Now he’s beaten his wife Beth( so called and suppose to beat her and chased her with guns, when will there be justice done. The military covered up all the abuse and the adultry, I guess to fall for one of his acts. Their was many times that James was confronted by his higher up commanders to stop and even told Alicia about it. James admitted it to a SRG. Berry and some other commanders and said it wasn’t going to happen again. James after that was on a destruction path. Wanted to kill Alicia with a child in her (8 months pregnant), she called for help through the military and no one seemed to care but for the soldier. The military has went NUTS itself. If the military really did research things they would find these records of abuse and they testified in court to about the abuse and said they had two or three times documented about the abuse and the local police to!! I think that they are just waiting until he kills someone and then say I think somethings wrong.

  229. Enough said,

    May 5, 2011 at 2:34 am

    The Alicia vs James issue is over.

    The Elizabeth vs James issue is still yet to be resolved in a court of law.

    Rehashing something from Feb 2007 and applying the same comments to the current Feb 2011 issue isn’t fair or helpful.

    Funny, I just noticed both events were February dates. Not a good month in this man’s life!

  230. Melissa Bay said,

    May 5, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    It must be Valentine’s Day; just too much pressure! Seriously though, when posting, it would be helpful to double check grammar, spelling and sytnax. Some of the postings are very difficult to understand.

    Also, though it came from one of the older posts, I happened to notice that someone said, “he NEVER even attempted to be mean or ugly to me. For him to be considered abusive it’s outragious [sic].” It really needs to be understood that a person can be very charming to everyone except ONE person. This is very common in abuse among children. If a family has four children, three may be treated like royalty and one of them horribly abused.

    For someone to think that a person they know could “never” do something like that is to ignore the facts of psychology and abuse. This is actually how many abusers ‘get away’ with the abuse for so long. Neighbors and friends think, “Oh, he/she could never do something like that. He/she has always been nice to me” or ” All of his/her other children are so well cared for, THAT child must have something wrong with him/her and must be very trying on the parent.”

    Although abusers may be disheveled alcoholics or drug users, that is NOT always the case. FREQUENTLY they are friendly, nice-looking, charming people – “to me.”

  231. Someone close said,

    May 5, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Does anyone know the charges now on James, does Alicia know? What about the kids with their dad, are they really SAFE around him. Seems a lot of questions need to be answered after this event following the other.

  232. t-ray said,

    May 9, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Beth claimed James hit her after he had fell on the floor and she dropped him 4 times trying to get him up. She then stated in court that he was trying to kill himself by going for a guns (while on the floor). How a man stuck on the floor w/o being able to get up and do all this is amazing. All I really know is Beth did talk about how controlling her mother was.
    Beths mother came down on Valentines day and told her she had to leave. After Beth told her for over an hour she didn’t want to she left. James made sure she had a gun and money w/ her.
    James has no criminal charges, He is however had to spend alot of time in the hospital over the last month due to bone and spine issues.
    James loves his kids, and does alot to make sure they have fun when he gets a chance to see them. He is very proud of them, he talks about how much they do in school.

  233. Enough said,

    May 10, 2011 at 1:29 am

    Sure would be nice if facts were checked before statements made in a public forum. While there are no charges pending against James (other than divorce based on abuse claim – which can not be filed until August in KY or in February in NC) the court in NC was convinced enough to issue protective orders when presented with the evidence.

    Abuse claims were not just based on one night. The only charge that was needed and referenced in the hearing was the one that resulted in bruises on Beth’s face, shoulders and back. Photos that were admitted into evidence at the hearing. That coupled with the following of Beth back to KY was enough to convince the judge, according to his own statement, that abuse had been present in the home.

    At this time, the cooling off period is still in effect. KY has a 6 month, while NC has a 12 month wait.

    If in fact James has spent any time in the hospital lately, although certainly sad and not wished on anyone, only goes to show how well Beth did take care of him while they were together. I can’t begin to understand the stress and strain of being in the position that James has found himself. However, there are other avenues of help and stress release than beating on your spouse.

    I do hope they can resolve the settlement of property without having to go through a court battle. The audio tapes that Beth presented the KY police are scary as hell to listen to, I can only guess the state of frustration that must have been in their home on those nights.

  234. Mother said,

    May 10, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Seems like everyone has already solved the case. Good thing the court will be the only one that counts.

  235. Someone close said,

    May 10, 2011 at 3:53 am

    My thought’s and prayers are with you (Beth and her Family). Like they say once a abuser always one. If you or your family needs anything let us know. With the comment in one of the earlier post, James had said many times when he was with Alicia, that if she left him he was going to kill himself. He has been very disturbed even in high school days.

  236. Ky friend said,

    May 11, 2011 at 5:56 am

    Wow, Alicia talking about yourself in the 3rd person, as someone close, You already stated in your earlier post who you were (post 222) I do like how you compliment yourself in the very next post though. Talking about disturbed. If James was so disturbed in high school why did you marry him to start out with? If he was that disturbed then what does that say about you? BTW Alicia, most of the deths and injuries happen to military personal on deployments in the 1st 3 months on the deployment and last 2 months before returning. He was good enough to do many things in the Army and in the emergentcy service field that alot of people couldn’t do. I wouldn’t cast stones if I were you. Alicia after all the things you claimed Beth did I don’t think she would be looking for your help.
    It didn’t take long for Beth to start going out, and return to the dating scene w/ people after returning up here to Ky. I think she will be ok. She can do anything she wants she rebounds fast and can accomplish anything.


  237. Someone close said,

    May 12, 2011 at 2:50 am

    Wow! I’m not Alicia. I am her best friend and have been for about 17 years. I was there before James and After wards. I went to high school with Alicia and James, and know many things about James and Alicia was so in love with him then. I cried at there wedding not because my friend was moving on and away but because she didn’t open her eyes to see what he was then. Me and some of Alica’s other friends had saw him hit her and yelling at her in school, but she didn’t want to see the bad in him. If you want to know my name is Laura. Yes Alicia and I read this together because I told her that she needed to read something and she is concerned for her children. Alicia is a very smart and bright person too and has a big heart. Alicia was with me when I made the comments in earlier post and she said her heart goes out to Beth. She did make those comments but everything else was me(Laura).I to know what she is going through because I have been there too in the type of relationship she has been in, But if you have a attitude like that ; I don’t see why Alicia would want to sent her sympathy to you (Beth). I guess because she is a kind person and knowing that she was in the same position as you and I were in then she felt like she cared.

  238. Ky friend said,

    May 12, 2011 at 6:35 am

    So in your post 222 You said James told you, that you were his wife and you just had to deal w/ it. I was unaware that James was married to two ppl at the same time and had 3 kids by someone else and everyone was living in the same house, as you said in your eairler post. So due to what you said in your eailer post, If you arn’t Alicia, you were married to and living w/ your best friends husband interesting, I wouldn’t call that being a best friend. Try getting your story stright before you tell it. Just like all the crap you tried to say Beth was doing and had did to you. Beth is a strong woman and doesn’t need to lie about anything. James is in pain every day of his life. From what happen, it all came from James being stuck and the problems from being shot in back. I just hope both Beth and James can resolve what is between them in a civil way and get on w/their lives.

  239. Someone close said,

    May 12, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    If you were in court doctors proved that he was never shot in the back. UnLike him and Beth tell everyone that he was wunded in Iraq or at a recuriters office that I’ve read. Funny who’s telling lies. Ans yes my name is Laura Jarvis and I have been close friends with Alicia long before James and her were together and still are. I love her like a sister. I was stating in the earlier post her exact words what she said about James. Excuse ME!

  240. Someone close said,

    May 12, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    If you were in court doctors proved that he was never shot in the back. Unlike him and Beth tell everyone that he was wounded in Iraq or at a recruiters office that I’ve read. Funny who’s telling lies. Ans yes my name is Laura Jarvis and I have been close friends with Alicia long before James and her were together and still are. I love her like a sister. I was stating in the earlier post her exact words what she said about James. Excuse ME!

  241. The real Alicia said,

    May 13, 2011 at 12:35 am

    I appreciate all that have supported me, but everything is over with and I have moved on with my life and I hope that everyone else will. For my friends and family that have been there for me Thank you.

  242. Ky friend said,

    May 13, 2011 at 12:36 am

    He was shot in the back, Beth and James never claimed diffrent. He has always been very up front about you shooting him! I don’t know where you claim he was shot then, everyone has seen the hole. The Doctors reports do show the bullet wound in the back you can’t hide the hole! Ok Laura why did you say what you did in the post on 222. Beth and James never lied, Even OJ could put on a good show, but everyone knew he was guilty. As far as if you were a friend and James was abusive while they were in high school why didn’t you go to someone? I guess Alicia wasn’t smart enough to leave she had plenty of chances. I guess she liked all the benifits to much.

  243. Leave It alone said,

    May 13, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Why don’t you just line James up infront of a firing squad, that seems to be the only thing that would make everyone happy. The past is just that the past. James lives his life in a wheel chair and has several medical problems due to it. You all seem to get off on bashing him over and over it doesn’t solve anything. Insetad of this being called home sweet home it should be called go after James and bash him as much as you can. Instead of putting all of both of your stuff out there, why don’t you leave what should remain alone just that. Not on a public site. I know Alicia and Beth want to see James dead they both have made that clear, but leave it off the site. Who knows Alicia and Beth can be best friends now and can compare notes.

  244. Mother said,

    May 18, 2011 at 2:42 am

    I will go on the record as being one that has never heard Beth say she wanted ANYTHING bad to happen to James. She has only said that she wants to be left alone.

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