Here is a puzzle

Elizabeth Kenna was living in an apartment with her boyfriend Anthony DeCarolis, 25, and another couple and a brother of the one of the other couple. She was 24, pregnant and due to give birth in a few days.

A friend/neighbor hadn’t seen her in a couple of days, and when she didn’t come to a planned gathering on Sat. night then didn’t show up for work on Sunday the friend went to the apartment to check on her, around 11 am. The door to the home was closed and locked, but the friend was able to enter through an unlocked sliding glass door. The friend found Kenna in a bedroom deceased.

Police are saying the boyfriend is not a suspect, but they do want to talk to him. They haven’t been able to locate him, and say he was last seen driving Kenna’s car on Sunday. Police say the autopsy has been completed on Kenna, but they aren’t releasing the cause of death. The baby was a little girl.

Neighbors have made some interesting comments. They say that police have been to the address 2 or 3 times in the last month. They have described Kenna as friendly, but admit to some concerns about DeCarolis. One neighbor has said that DeCarolis has alleged that maybe the child wasn’t his. That neighbor even made this comment:

“I remember hearing a young man on a phone call conversation yelling about how he found out his girlfriend was pregnant”

Friends say that the couple didn’t have domestic problems, but neighbors have reported hearing at least one argument in the middle of the night. They say the sliding glass door was opened several times during that argument.

http://www.nbc6.net/news/9179623/detail.html

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/14525380.htm

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/14534291.htm

 http://www.local10.com/news/9174578/detail.html              (Picture of DeCarolis and Kenna at the above link)

The allegation: I always find it ironic when a man will have a continuing relationship with a woman, and when he finds out there is an unplanned pregnancy- immediately jumps to the “maybe it isn’t mine”. If she had lived, a paternity test would have proven the facts. And it wasn’t like she got pregnant and he left. She was 9 months pregnant and they were still together.

My question is this. There were evidently 5 people living in that home. Kenna failed to keep appointments with friends, to the point that they noticed a problem. Yet the people who lived with her didn’t find her or at least didn’t report.

There could be a reason for that. I know, young couples live busy lives. And multiple relationships in one apartment, they would have to give each other some privacy. Maybe they were away, maybe they were given excuses for Kenna’s absence. But it just seems odd that the first persons to check on her, was someone who didn’t live in the home.

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Anthony DeCarolis was found about 10 am today. Police believe that it may have been suicide, an autopsy is pending.

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060517/APN/605170958

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-517naplesmurder,0,3715338.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

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61 Comments

  1. Kelly said,

    May 14, 2006 at 12:19 am

    Please take this off your site. You are not even posting correct information about her death, and the baby was a boy. I am one of her closest friends and I am appalled to see her death depicted this way. Her other friends and I are going through enough trauma w/o false facts being spread.

  2. May 14, 2006 at 3:15 pm

    Kelly, thank you for stopping by. I took my info from the articles listed above and only added a little personal comment. If you feel something written there is incorrect, please feel free to add your version or add articles which give a corrected version of events. Incidently, I checked and the MSM does list the baby as being a little girl.
    I want to thank you for your comment. This post hadn’t gotten much attention, until you left the comment and I would guess that the additional attention it is getting is probably due to you. So thank you.

  3. SADDENED said,

    May 15, 2006 at 1:12 pm

    This information is INCORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEFORE POSTING INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE YOU DON”T KNOW GET THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!! The baby was a boy!!! WE NEED TO FIND ANTHONY AND GET JUSTICE!!HOW ABOUT DESCRIBING WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE!

  4. rich said,

    May 16, 2006 at 2:58 pm

    1

  5. a friend said,

    May 16, 2006 at 4:31 pm

    Dylan Michael was the name Anthony and Liz had picked out. Yes it is true that it seems strange that the other 3 people living in the house did not hear anything. And if anybody has ever met Tony they would know that the accusations are totally out of his character!! He was a nice guy, my best friend for years. I haven’t seen him much the last couple of years but when i did see him a few months back he couldn’t wait to tell me that he was going to be a daddy. He was great with kids, and happy with Elizabeth. He didn’t discuss any problems he was having with even his closest friends!! Its obvious that there is much more to this story because alot of things don’t add up. We are all saddened by Elizabeths untimely death and want justice. I would like to add that enough time has passed that by now they should have enough evidence and be actively looking for Anthony if the evidence points to him. Friend or not, if he did what he is accused of they should have a countrywide manhunt out for him. It took them a week to even go to Naples where he was last seen, they might have let him slip right through their fingers.

  6. a friend said,

    May 16, 2006 at 4:40 pm

    Also wanted to add, that the Collier County police are assisting Sunrise PD in locating Anthony. Here is the poster they have, which doesn’t show much urgency to find him!!
    http://www.colliersheriff.org/news/docs/homicide%20sunrise.pdf
    This was posted on the 9th, nothing has since. He is not a missing person or wanted person in the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. The media over there announced his presence but that was about it. When the 3 boys had attacked the homeless men in Ft Lauderdale, it was everywhere in the newspapers and on the internet. Why isn’t this? I would like to see this case be on America’s Most Wanted!!!

  7. a roommate said,

    May 16, 2006 at 9:00 pm

    If you think we had something to do with it then…Where is Tony? Why was he seen in Naples in her car? How would one of us be trying to use her bank card in naples, when we were sitting in front of our apartment surrounded by crime scene tape? I can see where it would seem odd that we didn’t hear anything. I wish we would have heard something. But we didn’t & can’t change that. You don’t know us and don’t know that we were not just Elizabeths roommates, but her friends of about 10 years. We as their roommates never would have imagined that that bastard would do something so horrible. I always had my doubts about tony (he was never abusive and didn’t yell and stuff, but there was just something about him that worried me), but Liz loved him & they were starting a family and nothing anyone said could change the way she felt about him. They were happy. I guess we all only thought we knew Tony. I would like to clerify that the police had NOT been to our apartment 2-3 times in the last month. They had come 1 time ever (several months ago) because we had a party and the music was to loud. Those stupid people in the neighborhood just wanted to be on TV and were making stuff up. And if I ever come across that lady in public you can bet i have some choice words for her. I became worried when Liz didn’t show at the get together on saturday, but as people down here know, that was the weekend of the air and sea show & we just figured they had gone down to the beach & forgot to call & tell us. but when it seemed like they didn’t come home saturday night we became worried. I would have broken into their bedroom myself when i got home from class on sunday, but that gut wrenching feeling that something was wrong got to me first & i called my friends & we decided someone needed to break into the room. Our friend just happened to try the sliding door first & made the horrible discovery. I should have tried it myself before I left. But I didn’t. I can never go back to change that. I wish it never would have happened. There is no doubt in my mind that Anthony was Elizabeths killer. And if he ever reads this we all just want to know…why? We were all so excited about Dylan. Elizabeth was going to be the best mother ever. Dylan was due to be born on Friday.
    Our friends and Elizabeths family know that we did not have anything to do with her death and thats all that really matters. But it hurts the 3 of us to see that anyone that does not know her or us would feel the need to make any comments regarding her or us. We loved and miss Elizabeth very much.

  8. Another friend said,

    May 16, 2006 at 9:35 pm

    What is the goal of this website you guys have here? Because your blog seems pretty insensitive. For those of us who knew Liz, her death was tragic beyond words. This blog entry is truly an example of adding insult to injury, and I think the best thing you could do for everyone is to remove it.

  9. a friend said,

    May 16, 2006 at 9:50 pm

    Yes you were a friend of Liz’s and also a I know one of the roommates worked with Tony a while back….I knew Tony since he was 12 years old. No i don’t think a roommate killed her, I did say it was strange that nobody heard anything. Like i’ve said, i’m an outsider in all this. You all were a circle of friends that knew eachother for a while. Yes Tony was a little odd, but i grew up with him. We are talking the same guy who babysat for our friends kids, who we trusted in our home. I’m not sure which of you i’m talking to but have you ever heard him yell, or even get mad? I NEVER meant to imply that i thought a roommate did this……but has anybody stopped to think that something may have happened to him. Why aren’t the cops searching high and low for him…….why haven’t they searched his Dads house, why isn’t he on any of the websites as a wanted person. This is frustrating for all of us, his family loved Liz too and were very excited about Dylan. Why is there no doubt that Anthony is the killer to you guys but seems to be to the cops. By now they have cold hard evidence against who did it…..why isn’t he caught??

  10. This blog sucks said,

    May 17, 2006 at 12:58 am

    Dumb ass, the cops have said that he is a primary suspect. There was enough info found at the crime scene for them to put out a warrant for his arrest. Please know what you are talking about before you write stuff.

    Oh, and if Anthony was such a nice guy, why did he steal her car a few months back? Why wasn’t he working full time? He knew he had a baby on the way after all. Elizabeth on the other hand, worked more than full time and was going to work up till her due date. Even though I am positive that he was responsible for her death, the information stated above is more than enough reason to think that he sucks.

    I would also like to add that this blog site sucks and is insensitive. Again, please remove this article.

  11. I almost forgot said,

    May 17, 2006 at 1:06 am

    To the roommates,

    I know you guys had nothing to do with it. I know you think it would have been better if you had woken up to stop the psycho, but then there may have been more funerals to attend. I am also glad that she had not moved in with her parents yet b/c they may have been harmed too. You are all loved and only ignorant fools would not be able to see how much you cared for her.

    I would also like to add, for the third time, that this blog site sucks. Please remove this article.

  12. a friend said,

    May 17, 2006 at 1:52 am

    Anthony WAS a friend growing up…i understand everybodies hard feelings right now and willingness to lash out on comments made. Everyone reading this blog is here for one reason, because we care!! I would just like to see justice done, and was just stating the facts that if they gathered enough evidence to take him down, they should have already!! Do you really feel that enough is being done because it seems that the officials aren’t going full force at this like i’ve seen them do with less serious crimes. The media stopped talking about it, to make room for more news. Collier counties sheriff only has him listed as wanted for questioning. He’s not on the database as a wanted person. Only channel 10 news announced his warrant. Is it just me, or does anybody feel this way. I’m sorry, i know it hurts and her death was very tragic. But if we take this blog off, is it really going to make the pain go away? The only way to come to terms with this is to find out why this happened…To find Tony…..that is the closure everyone needs….her friends, her family, and his family too. I guess i’m looked at as being on the other side, because i didn’t know her very well but thats not the case. I want him found and i want answers, just as everyone else. Everybody has heard different points of view, and the media has made alot of mistakes, but thats because nobody is talking!!! Nobody was setting things straight, the only person i saw on the news was his sister telling the media that the baby was a boy and asking anthony to turn himself in. we can all bicker about who says what but we are all on this blog for one reason or another. Because we sit here helpless, searching for an answer….looking up the news stories everyday hoping to hear something new. Hoping that maybe someone reads this that knows something that we don’t. Sharing information because we are all at a loss for words.

  13. If you don’t know, don’t comment said,

    May 17, 2006 at 2:17 am

    Taking this blog off won’t make the pain go away but it will keep people from saying stupid things and cutting the wound deeper.

  14. a friend said,

    May 17, 2006 at 2:45 am

    Maybe its better the wounds stay fresh, that way we can do something about this. If something was said that isn’t correct, please correct it. If it hurts too much, don’t read it. All i’m saying is the more people read this site the better chance we have of the authorities finding him. We owe it to her and baby Dylan to set things straight…To talk about things that may trigger a memory, instead of just bashing people for having different opinions. calling someone a dumbass whoever is #10? have you read the paper, have you looked on the collier county website? Doesn’t it make you angry that not enough is being done. We have the ability with this website to say things, to get the word out about what happened. yes i commented that Anthony was a nice guy. Did any of you think he was capable of something like this? we all have friends and family and it will defintely make us think twice about who we trust. What signs were there? Him not having a job?? So that means that everybody that doesn’t work fulltime is cabable of something like this…NO it doesn’t #10!! Theres no way to tell and nobody that was close to them is to blame for not preventing this!! Nobody saw this coming, but we all have questions. Correct me if i’m wrong, but don’t you feel helpless???

  15. a mother said,

    May 17, 2006 at 3:37 am

    i am confident that the police will find justice. in time, the truth will prevail, people will talk and “miss liz” will rest peacefully with dylan. hang in there friends, a mom.

  16. I miss Elizabeth said,

    May 17, 2006 at 11:19 am

    “Number 14” your statement seems to be very inconsistent.

    “We owe it to her and baby Dylan to set things straight…To talk about things that may trigger a memory, instead of just bashing people for having different opinions.” Didn’t you just bash number 10 for having a different opinion?

    Besides, there is a place to talk about these things. Its not on the Internet though, it is with friends and loved ones. The blog posted a news article that presented false information. Have you thought about how her family must feel about this? Did you read the insensitive and ignorant message left by the moderator? How would you feel if your death were exploited?

    Your statement, “Him not having a job?? So that means that everybody that doesn’t work full-time is capable of something like this…NO it doesn’t #10!!” contradicts “To talk about things that may trigger a memory, instead of just bashing people for having different opinions.” This is about Elizabeth’s death, it’s not about every other person in the world. The statement number 10 left was trying to show that there were signs. He wasn’t taking an active part in preparation for the baby.

    Also, are you trying to justify him not working? Do YOU think it was ok that he was not helping Elizabeth save money? What are you really trying to say?

    “Did any of you think he was capable of something like this?” Furthermore, there were people who asked Elizabeth to leave Anthony. Do you know what Elizabeth said about this? She said that people needed to be there for him while he was getting over his addiction. Too bad he was not there for her.

    I was at two of the baby showers that Elizabeth had. Anthony just hung behind Elizabeth like this dark ugly shadow. I didn’t realize till now how ominous this was.

    “Correct me if i’m wrong, but don’t you feel helpless???” I will correct you. Yes, we all feel helpless. Not because we can’t find Anthony, but because he took away a beautiful life and there was nothing we could do about it.

  17. SADDENED said,

    May 17, 2006 at 1:07 pm

    Ok I have known Anthony for a long time also, he was always a calm person…but this just goes to show anyone can kill. It could of been anyone. I also knew LIZ she was beautiful and so kind to my child..As the news came everyone was in Shock..saddened…Now angry!! Questions…Why Anthony? Why didn’t you let your baby live? How could you kill such a wounderful woman and baby? WHy didn’t you just walk away? There is NO excuse anyway! No one has spotted him since Monday, no one knows… he could of taken his OWN life also.His hand, Some one has to notice it! Well I have heard HIS family is going to the WEST COAST to pass out flyers to try and help find him and bring him to Justice. Her family should help get the word out also I know if it was my child I would. That would be my #1 priorty. But they may be in so much pain that they just can’t. Well I SAY WE ALL STICK TOGETHER IN THIS AND HELP BRING HIM TO JUSTICE,EITHER HER FRIEND’S OR HIS.

  18. a friend said,

    May 17, 2006 at 3:32 pm

    Unfortunetely, this blog isn’t a memorial For Liz, its about domestic violence. I have not bashed #10, just asking questions directed toward him. Like i’ve said, i’ve known Tony for a long time BUT hadn’t been close with him lately. Lately meaning a couple of years. I was sitting at my computer reading the newspaper and i hear about her death. Scrolling down the page i see the picture of her and think she looks familiar. I scroll down a little more and see Tony’s face. I have never had so many mixed feelings before. Someone who i once called my best friend…I was close with his family and he was close to mine. I got chills, and immediately went to the trailer park he lived in. I heard everyones version of what they knew. I spent the next couple of days watching every news cast, crying…everyday things like this happen but its not everyday we know the people involved. The more time that passes the angrier i get…I want to know why, i want to know what could make someone snap like that…Yes him not working was wrong but its not like he was taking days off from his job just because he was lazy, his boss wasn’t working either. I heard he was getting ready to start work at Home Depot….He had his whole life ahead of him and so did she, they were about to start the family that he always talked about growing up…why not just leave her…he obviously doesn’t have a problem disappearing and not calling his family or friends. Everyone on this website so far that are making comments are on defense. Its shows in your writing. Saddened made a point, same point i was trying to make….instead of just being mad at the world, lets do something about it. Crimestoppers….america’s most wanted…..put up wanted posters……Lets find him….We can’t just sit around and ask why…..I just read the sunsentinel and they think he’s in Alabama…his family was going to Naples to put up the posters…The FBI is looking for him now……finally some national attention!!! Maybe a reward on crimestoppers? Yes his hand will get him spotted, and doesn’t he have a tattoo? Is there anything we have not thought of that can help? I know her family is going through alot, i can’t even begin to imagine the pain…his family is willing to do whatever it takes to find him, and have him turned into authorities. Everyone needs closure and they will not have it until he is caught.

  19. SADDENED said,

    May 17, 2006 at 4:10 pm

    I agree”a friend said”!!!!!!!Well said!!Im sure we have met and I hope to everyone involved.. that this has affected….my love and prayers.

  20. SADDENED said,

    May 17, 2006 at 5:32 pm

    Well to let everyone he was found, he killed himself….omg

  21. a roommate said,

    May 17, 2006 at 6:39 pm

    nothing to say “a friend”? I hope he was there for days undiscovered. We will never have justice, but at least we no longer need to be afraid of him being out there free. His soul will burn in hell for eternity and he deserves every second. He has left us all to wonder why for the rest of our lives. none of us will ever be the same people we were thanks to him.
    Rot in Hell Tony, Rot in HELL!

  22. rld said,

    May 17, 2006 at 6:55 pm

    you will never see me having a baby with a crack head

  23. SADDENED said,

    May 18, 2006 at 12:31 pm

    aRoOmAtE We all know what he did was very wrong, but what if his suffering family decides to read your message. He is gone now and can not read what you wrote, but they can. How do you think they would feel? If that was your son,brother or nephew who did that, don’t you think you would be going through enough. They loved Liz and the baby also. Have some compassion for the others Please!! Show some level of maturity.THANKS!

  24. Mature said,

    May 18, 2006 at 1:51 pm

    Did you ever stop to think about how the roommates feel? They have people accusing them of being suspects in all of this. Don’t you think they are traumatized because they slept through the murder? Who are you to tell them how to greave? Who are you to say that her family should have been trying harder to find him?

    I am assuming that you are a family member because of the tone of your statements, but you obviously can’t think past yourself. Elizabeth’s family lost two people and yes, your family lost a son and a grandson but you have no right to condescend others for their feelings or actions. Why don’t you try being respectful?

    After all, this man brutally stabbed Elizabeth and Dylan with not one, but two knives repeatedly in her belly. Compassion? You want US to have compassion? Do you realize what he did? Her glasses were on when she was found. Clearly she was awake and conscious when she was slain. Have you thought about how she felt in her last moments of life? Obviously not.

    This is more than enough reason for us to be reacting the way we are. We are acting mature, please try doing the same. If you don’t want to hear people bashing Anthony, then stay away from people who loved Elizabeth.

  25. Mature said,

    May 18, 2006 at 3:49 pm

    Did you ever stop to think about how the roommates feel? They have
    people accusing them of being suspects in all of this. Don’t you think
    they are traumatized because they slept through the murder? Who are you
    to tell them how to greave? Who are you to say that her family should
    have been trying harder to find him?

    I am assuming that you are a family member because of the tone of your
    statements, but you obviously can’t think past yourself. Elizabeth’s
    family lost two people and yes, your family lost a son and a grandson
    but you have no right to condescend others for their feelings or
    actions. Why don’t you try being respectful?

    After all, this man brutally stabbed Elizabeth and Dylan with not one,
    but two knives repeatedly in her belly. Compassion? You want US to have
    compassion? Do you realize what he did? Her glasses were on when she
    was found. Clearly she was awake and conscious when she was slain. Have
    you thought about how she felt in her last moments of life? Obviously
    not.

    This is more than enough reason for us to be reacting the way we are.
    We are acting mature, please try doing the same. If you don’t want to
    hear people bashing Anthony, then stay away from people who loved
    Elizabeth.

  26. Grim said,

    May 18, 2006 at 4:29 pm

    Saddened shut the hell up with the compassion BS. Tony doesn’t deserve compassion. Liz didn’t deserve what happen to her but Tony deserved far worse. Where’s your compassion? Do you have any idea how hard this has to be on the roommates. Have you ever had your best friend murdered in your own home and then this lovely site accuses them taking part of it. That sounds real compassionate to me. Did you know that anger is part of the morning phase, it’s called human nature, not maturity. It’s some thing we do as humans to help cope with the pain. If Tony’s family wants compassion, they need to find it within thier family cause I doubt they’ll get much from Liz’s friends and family. Why should I feel for Tony’s family? Tony wasn’t murdered, he was a murder. That’s like telling families who lost loved one during 9/11 that they need to show compassion to the families of the guys who hi-jacked the planes.

  27. Compassionate said,

    May 18, 2006 at 4:52 pm

    I hope Tony’s neck didn’t break and he died a slow and painful death. How’s that for compassion.

  28. a roommate said,

    May 18, 2006 at 4:58 pm

    Thanks Grim. I do know that the Kenna’s don’t feel the same way as I do regarding the Decarolis family. They feel that Tony was his own person & they do feel compasion for his family. But I have a right to have my own feelings. And I am very angry. I have a right to be. I know that Elizabeths mother did read this website & I felt bad for writing what I did. But only for a minute because I didn’t want to hurt her. But like I said…I am allowed to feel the way I want regarding Tony & thats just how I feel. How do you think the Kenna’s felt when they read the comment by RLD? I didn’t see you saying anything about that Saddened. Its like all the sudden poor Tony?? What crap.

  29. shocked & confused said,

    May 18, 2006 at 5:06 pm

    I was a friend of Tony, but we hadn’t spoken in a long time. I just can’t believe this! He never seemed like the type EVER!!! I never saw a temper, never even seen him get mad. Its just so hard to believe…this whole thing is just such an unbelievable tragedy. He must have really changed since we last spoke! I mean what kind of monster…Its like I’m sad for the loss of the Tony I used to know, the laid back Tony who was so easy to talk to and fun to be around, but as for the Tony he became, and luckily I never met, suicide is not enough of a punishment. Its the selfish man’s out. He deserved to pay for his actions much more drastically. I really don’t know what to say, But I do want all of Liz’s friends and family to know how sorry I am. My heart aches for each and everyone of you, especially the family and the roommates, no one should ever have to go through what you guys are experiencing. (Like I said I hav’nt talked to Tony in sometime…is M.C. and his Brother & girlfriend his roomates still??) Even if you guys aren’t anymore…I know you were close and I am sorry. Just know that no one thinks its your fault, there is nothing that you could have done, no one ever suspected something like this could ever happen.

  30. SO TIRED said,

    May 18, 2006 at 6:06 pm

    YOU ARE ALL DEVILS PLEASE STOP! A DAUGHTER, A GRANDCHILD, AND A SON WERE LOST. STOP IT! HAVE COMPASSION FOR ALL FAMILYS INVOLVED!

  31. SADDENED said,

    May 18, 2006 at 6:21 pm

    I didn’t mean to offend any of you roomates. I am sure you are angry… but his family does not approve of what he did. They are not happy, hell they aren’t even having a funeral for him.I AM NOT A FAMILY MEMBER. I knew him for a long time. TRUST ME I feel for the kennas very much. It makes me sick what he did. But like I was saying his family had nothing to do with it. I don’t think they should suffer, Anthony yes but them NO! His suicide shows to many that he couldn’t live with what he did. So many killers go on and on and on with out even blinking. He killed himself a day after they found her. NOT THAT I AM SAYING IT IS RIGHT IT IS TOTALLY WRONG. BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS NO ONE CAN GO BACK NOW.

  32. SADDENED said,

    May 18, 2006 at 6:46 pm

    Just wanted to say again I am sorry if I offended anyone. All I hope for everyone is peace and love. Sorry

  33. May 18, 2006 at 7:30 pm

    Ok, I have stayed out of this up to now. I make a comment on the oddity of apartment mates not seeing or hearing of anything in the home that raised their suspicions, and I also added some reasons why that might have occurred, and I get slammed for making accusations against the roommates.
    That showed the me level of anger here. I realized there might be some sensitivity there due to the roommates being questioned by police and facing others questions, so I left it alone.
    When I started getting hits from a gaming site whose heading reads along with its name the quotation “spawn. die. spawn. die”, I still never said a word. (though I did wonder at the appropriatness of the site considering the circumstances).
    And yes, I am aware of at least one poster who made several posts, while using different names.
    But I can understand anger in these circumstances. The anger is understandable. Anger is usually one of the first reactions to the news of a death. What happened in your lives was horrible. The loss of two friends who you had shared things with is tragic. And the loss of the promise of a new life- well, that makes it especially hard to deal with.
    But you all are misdirecting your anger. Fighting between families, her friends, his friends, their friends or each other will not change things nor will it even help you to feel better. It will still hurt. Arguing among each other will just prolong the hurt and anger.
    You have all suffered a horrible loss, no matter whose friend you were. I have read nothing in the news or in your posts that indicate that anyone else is to blame for what happened. So don’t take the anger out on each other.

  34. a roommate said,

    May 18, 2006 at 8:13 pm

    although talking about this is somewhat theraputic as we all need to vent sometime, the homesweethome person is right. thank you for removing that (edited by HSH) (rdl's) most recenet post & it would be nice if you could take the other one off too. we cannot change what happened and it is everyones best interest to try and stop talking about it here. i'm sorry for directing comments to "a friend" and "saddened". i know you are both upset also.

  35. May 18, 2006 at 9:24 pm

    A little bit of venting doesn’t hurt, as long as it isn’t misdirected or prolonged. But if it does get misdirected or prolonged, then it can become self destructive. You hurt yourself more than the person you are really angry at.

  36. a friend said,

    May 18, 2006 at 10:05 pm

    I’ve stayed away since i heard the news of Tony’s suicide. I was also hurt by the comments made. All i wanted was to to find him and get “sides” invloved. He had problems, problems that i wasn’t around to see because i chose my own path in life. Me and Tony were best friends, he was like a little brother to me. I wanted this to have a different outcome and i am so sorry it didn’t. To the roommates, I am sorry if any comments i made you took in a negative way. I can’t imagine how you must feel. And saddened was so right about how Tony’s family feels. I wish you all the best and to all involved, my heart goes out to you.

  37. Rachel said,

    May 30, 2006 at 8:45 pm

    Is this site still accepting comments?

  38. May 30, 2006 at 9:56 pm

    Yes, the site is still accepting comments. But after a recent spate of arguments among commenters, threatening comments and victim bashing- I am now severely moderating the comments. I am sorry that I had to do this, as I prefer the loose and easy open comments, but when it started getting out of hand, then I felt that I had no choice.

  39. a little sister said,

    June 9, 2006 at 6:06 pm

    liz tony and dylan i love you all so much.

  40. helton said,

    June 11, 2006 at 3:47 pm

    I love this site. Good work…

  41. a little sister said,

    June 12, 2006 at 12:27 am

    grim.. your really rude. tony’s family does deserve compasion. it’s not their fault it happend. and they loved liz and were excited about dylan. how do you think tony’s mom felt? she just lost a future daughter in law and her first grandbaby and then her son!! her own blood. she gave birth to him and raised him… it hurts everyone. not only liz’s family and friends but EVERYONE who was close to them. tony’s family is hurting more than any of you know. none of you will know because you never give them a chance all you do is talk crap. i honestly think all of you need to grow up and stop acting like complete asses with your comments. three people are gone. never agian to be seen or talked to or touched. their gone. nothing can change that. stop being such jerks to eachother.

  42. June 12, 2006 at 4:06 am

    Little Sister, I am truly sorry for your loss.
    Grim was right about one thing. Anger is one of the stages in the grieving process. Sometimes that comes out as anger at the cause, anger at God, anger at self, anger at the victim, and sometimes just anger at everyone in general. Everyone goes through a lot of emotions during the grieving process, and not everyone goes through the same “stage” at the same time or in the same way.
    However, you can get through this. And though you never forget, in time you can learn to accept it, to learn to live with it. It will always hurt, and while I can’t say it will get easier, it will get easier to accept over time. I have a site which talks about grief and the grieving process that might help.
    http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-THE-3.html

  43. HOLLY said,

    July 6, 2006 at 2:53 am

    I just have to speak up. I think everyone is skirting around the truth behind this incident of domestic violence. Tony had been smoking crack for 5 or so years, and I do not know what other drugs or alcohol he used.Drug use is the cause of many domestic violence situations. All you good friends and family members should be sharing this part of the story, so others can learn from this tragedy.
    And please don’t say drug use wan’t a factor, he was a sweet guy regardless of his drug use. Crack is crack, and worse when mixed with other substances.

  44. July 6, 2006 at 4:18 am

    Thank you for your comment Holly. It is true that drugs and alcohol are contributing factors in many domestic violence situations.

  45. Saddened said,

    July 7, 2006 at 6:00 pm

    Ok I haven’t posted about this in a while, I was angry, sad, confused you name it. I really cared for Anthony so much I would of given him the world. The whole drug situation is crazy I wish I would of known maybe I could of talked to him, I found out when I heard the news about the Murder. I still get sick when I think about what could of happened. Does anyone really know what happened? I spoke to his sister (which I haven’t spoken to since I read his obituiary) she said his case is still open, I wonder why, I didn’t ask for details. I really didn’t approve of the obituiary the Decarolis family put out. Her family asked for donations to charitiys in lieu of flowers his family asked for donations for them selfs but then they were having a “Celebration of life” party at Markham park with kegs, food, etc. My question is why call it “celebrate of life” when a baby and a mother were killed. Can you imagine how her mother may of felt knowing they were going to celebrate life and here her daughter and grandson were killed. A slap in the face if you ask me@@! And why not donate money to the betty ford foundation or something like that. Was the money for the kegs and party? Poor taste if you ask me. I have prayed on my own time for Anthony, Liz and Baby. And I pray that if Anthony was the one who did this which I believe he did he was not in his right mind. I don’t know I am still somewhat speechless……..

  46. July 7, 2006 at 6:47 pm

    Different people grieve in different ways. Different people memoralize in different ways. Different people cope in different ways. I would say that a “celebration of life” was probably to celebrate the fact that they had lived, that people had had a chance to know them. The Irish do something similiar in their wakes.

  47. a friend said,

    July 8, 2006 at 2:51 am

    As everyone knows, I knew Anthony, but did not know about the addiction until what happened. I was shocked but then again it was a little more shocking to hear about the murder-suicide. I am not sure what you mean Holly. Not sure if you want the drug addiction tobe a reason for what he did…to defend him that he wasn’t in his right mind?? Nobody is coming out blaming drugs for one reason, nobody but Anthony and Liz know what really happened. Ok we can blame the crack, but if he was addicted as you say for 5 years(???) then why didn’t this happen sooner?? What pushed him that night, at that moment to do what he did..we may never know…i am not trying to imply that the drugs didn’t influence his behavior but there was more to it…Saddened…please know that the families celebration of life was the only way for them to cope with what happened, to celebrate the life of a wonderful man. Its hard to grieve over someones death when they took the life of two others, so instead they celebrated his life, their memories of him. I haven’t yet figured out who you are but i’m sure we have met…to the editor of this website, if you could give saddened my email address that would be nice.

  48. July 8, 2006 at 3:18 am

    If saddened indicates that he or she wishes to receive the addy, I would be more than happy to oblige.

  49. A Friend Of Both said,

    July 11, 2006 at 7:18 pm

    I have a couple of things to say. I have been following this site since the beginning. I read every news story and tried to find out everything I possibly could about what happened. Everyone already knows that the only 2 people that know can not tell us. I don’t think anyone will ever understand. They were both beautiful people. What happned to Anthony to make him do this is beyond me. I’ve ran so many different scenarios through my head… but, none of that really matters. Nothing can change what has happened. I think about it every single day, and probably always will. I was never mad at anyone for voicing there opinions on this site. My initial feelings toward Anthony (and not to hurt anyone’s feelings – beacuse I am close with his family) were hatred. I tried putting myself in Liz’s place and that was all I could feel. Some time passed and my feelings changed. Anthony was a kind, loving person – and that was what I had to remember. That was why there was a celebration of life… for the life that he had lived… for the life that Liz, too had lived. I loved them both so much – and this tore me apart…

  50. Saddened said,

    July 12, 2006 at 12:50 pm

    I guess I understand about the celebration of life….like home said before people do grieve in different ways. I just thought it should of been kept quiet or just done later.I think of him everyday. I also think about that baby everyday how he was just 1 week away from life. Anthony why????why why??? I just wish I knew what happened because I could put some closure to this. I also try to put myself in liz’s place and just to think what she was thinking at the time of her murder, god it makes my stomach hurt. Anthony was being selfish…i don’t know…something had to happen…maybe he wasn’t happy…maybe it was the drugs…There isn’t any excuse for what he did anyway… so I need to take it how it is…..im not going to post anymore but thank you for this site it was good for all of us to talk. I miss the old Anthony!! It would of been a pleasure for me to love that baby….

  51. July 12, 2006 at 3:05 pm

    After any unexpected death, often the main question that survivor’s are left with is why? Why did it happen, why this person or these people. Many times there is no answer for that question. Believe it or not, you can learn to live with it, but it does take time. Try to focus on the good memories you have. Then turn to the loved ones you have left, and love them and let them love you. It does get a little easier, eventually.

  52. A Friend Of Both said,

    July 12, 2006 at 3:59 pm

    Saddened ~
    I know exactly how you feel. It seems that you and I have the same problem of not being able to let this go. Otherwise, you would not still be on this site. I check it alot to see if anyone has posted anything new. I think that you and I may never have the closure we seek. I am sure that I know you, and I am here if you need to talk.
    Home Sweet Home ~
    You may give saddened my e-mail address if he/she wants it.

  53. July 12, 2006 at 4:55 pm

    Will do, but saddened has to indicate they want it. Ok?

  54. A Friend Of Both said,

    July 12, 2006 at 5:40 pm

    Yes, I totally understand.

  55. ANTHONY'S SISTER said,

    July 12, 2006 at 6:18 pm

    OK I HAVE SO STAYED OUT OF THIS BUT NOW I’M PISSED SADDENED YOU, YOU I CANT BELIVE YOU WOULD SIT THERE AND SAY HOW MUCH YOU WOULD OF LIKED TO HAVE KNOWN ABOUT ANT’S PROBLEM AND HELP YOU SAY YOU NEW HIM SO WELL YET YOU BASH HIM LIKE THAT YOU NEVER TALKED TO ME YOUR FULL OF S**T HOW DARE YOU IF YOU DID TALK TO ME YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE TRUTH SO SHUT THE HELL UP I’M SO GLAD YOUR NOT GOING TO SAY ANYMORE YOU HAVE NO RIGHT CALLING YOURSELF A FRIEND OF THE FAMILY HOW DARE YOU! HOW F**KING DARE YOU I LOVED ANTHONY, LIZ, AND BABY DYLAN AND MISS THEM ALL !!! DYLAN WOULD OF BEEN MY FIRST NEPHEW AND LIZ WAS TO BE MY SISTER-IN-LAW DO YOU HOW HAPPY WE ALL WERE IT HURTS ALL OF US EVERYDAY KNOWING KNOW ONE WILL EVER WHAT REALLY HAPPEN WE CANT TAKE IT BACK BUT FOR YOU AND THE PERSON HOLLY HOW DARE THE BOTH OF YOU IF THE TWO OF YOU NEW ANTHONY THEN WHY DONT YOU GIVE ME A CALL I’D LIKE 2 TALK TO YOU!!!!!!!!! YOU BOTH NEED TO GET YOUR STORYS CORRECT BEFORE POSTING ANYTHING!!!!!!!! HEY SADDENED HOLLY WHY DONT THE BOTH OF YOU SHOW THAT COMPASSION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ………. YOU KNOW EVERYONE NOW WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT WHAT IF ! YOU KNOW I WAS TOLD ITS ALL MY FAULT DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT HURTS THAT IF IT WASENT FOR ME SHE’D STILL BE HERE THAT PERSON KNOWS WHAT THEY SAID TO MY FACE AND I GO TO BED EVERY NIGHT THINKING THAT . BUT I DIDNT MAKE THEM STAY TOGETHER FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT HURTS ? GOD IT DOES FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LOVED LIZ , FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LOVED ANTHONY & FOR THOSE WHO LOVED THEM BOTH I’M TRUELY SORRY THE THREE OF THEM WILL ALWAYS BE LOOKING OVER ALL OF US . THAT’S ALL I CAN SAY FOR NOW I JUST HOPE THAT WHO EVER HOLLY AND SADDENED IS CAN LIVE WITH THE LIES THEY’VE TOLD ON HERE !!!!!!!!!!

  56. ANTHONY'S SISTER said,

    July 12, 2006 at 6:21 pm

    AND IF HOLLY OR SADDENED WANTS MY EMAIL OR ANYONE ELSE PLZ GIVE IT TO THEM HOMESWEETHOME THANK YOU

  57. July 12, 2006 at 8:20 pm

    Anthony’s sister, I can tell from your comments how much you are hurting. Evidently, someone made a comment to you. I don’t know if it was a thoughtless comment or if they were refering to something specific. But from what I have read, you weren’t there. IF something happened beforehand, IF something was said or done beforehand….. you did not make the final decisions. That seems to have been made by one person alone.
    I couldn’t count the number of thoughtless or malicious comments I have heard made after a death. And I know how they can hurt. But as hard as it is, about the only thing you can do is ignore them. After a time they will stop. Take your memories before that time, and treasure them. Mourn over what might have been. But don’t spend time on those comments that make it worse.

  58. when will i see you again lizbeth said,

    July 13, 2006 at 5:39 pm

    It sent chills down my spine when I read it on his guestbook and to read it again here makes me sick. There is no way tony is up in heaven with Elizabeth and Dylan. Murderers don’t get to goto heaven and watch over their friends and family like the victims they sent there. I too thought it was terrible when I read that his family was asking for money for themselves in lue of flowers or donations to charities. I don’t really care if his family is poor. He didn’t deserve anything but the time he spent in the woods. If the family wanted to have any kind of service or “celebration of life” ::puke:: then that was their choice, others shouldn’t have been asked to help cover the expenses. When I first met him he did seem like a nice guy. But there was obviously something terribly wrong with him that no-one knew about. I don’t think this is just some kinda freak incident that just happened out of the blue. That he was on crack and snapped or it was a “drug deal gone bad” as I’ve heard from a few people. He was a drug addict yes. But I will never concider that to be the reason he did it. He seemed to have a lot of underlying issues. Personally I think he was nervous about the life ahead of him and the drugs and alcohol didn’t help. But like everyone else, I will never know. We all have the senario’s that help us cope. I think of Elizabeth and Dylan every hour of every day and more and try to push tony as far from my mind as possible.

  59. Someone said,

    July 13, 2006 at 7:16 pm

    I think about this all the time, too. I have thought many a time about the Heaven issue. Do I think Tony is in Heaven? I don’t think so. I know that God is all forgiving, but I do not know how far that forgiveness goes. Tony murdered a mother and child and took his own life. That is a lot for God to forgive. For some of the friends and family, the only thing that probably helps them cope is thinking that he is watching. Not that you have to care about that, you will feel how you feel, and I think that is fine. Everyone has a right to their feelings.

  60. amanda said,

    July 13, 2006 at 7:20 pm

    To WHEN WILL I SEE YOU AGAIN LIZABETH I know this has to hurt it hurts me alot. I was friends with both of them but I cant stand by and let you write idiotic comments. People can go to heaven if they have murderd people thats why jesus died on the cross. HELLO for our sins that includes the 10 comandments. You should really read your bible (if you have one) before you go running your mouth. And when was the case closed news flash its not there are no facts stating that he did kill her and none stating that he didnt. Its a mystery and it always will be. So shut your mouth when you dont even know what you are talking about. I hope Liz is looking down on you. What you are saying on here is sad you are sad. And to add something else crack is an addiciton it gets the best of people along with any drug. Half of the people in the U.S. are addicited to something. Its not a choice its a disease dumbass. Get a life bother someone else. And next time you commet a sin I hope you will ask for forgivness like Tony would have. Maybe God will have mercy on your disgusting soul! And for his family who knew him alot longer than you the way they want to celebrate his life is their buisness. Think about it they weren’t celebrating Liz or Dylans death or the events leading up to it They were celebrating a son, brother, and a friends life. Before this tragedy. They were celebrating the Tony that they once knew.

  61. July 13, 2006 at 8:20 pm

    In my opinion, all people have the right to express their feelings about the loss of a loved one. No matter what they may or may not have done. And if they have lost that loved one due to violence, then they should have the right to express their anger at who they feel caused that violence.
    But in doing so, there has been a consistent problem with posters attacking other posters. For that reason, I am disabling all comments on this post. For those who wished to express their grief, I am sorry. I know both sides are hurting, and I know that hurt is causing that problem. But I will not allow posters attacking other posters to continue.


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