Why don’t they leave?

           Pictures of Linsi, submitted by Cory                             

Many times you read the stories in the paper about women who are being abused. And you wonder, why would anyone stay in the relationship?

There are a number of reasons. Sometimes the abuser will cry and say they are sorry. They promise it will never happen again. But, if they lost control and abused once, they will likely do it again unless they get some help to find out why they lost control, correct old habits of how they handle problems, and learn new ways of dealing with problems. Sometimes the person being abused will feel guilty, they said or did something they shouldn’t have and made the other person angry, therefore it must be their fault. (See the above sentence). Maybe there are children involved, and don’t want to break up the family unit. Well, it isn’t good for the children, to remain in a household where abuse is occurring. They learn abusive, agressive behaviors or learn to choose abusive relationships for themselves. After all,in their world this is how relationships are supposed to work. They love the abuser and he/she didn’t mean to do it. Well, if the abuser loves, they will be willing to work on the relationship and get some help to change those problems. And I recomend that while they are getting help, if a couple is going to stay together- that the victim also get some help. Most family violence groups have support groups, where the victims learn about family violence, the effect it has on family and friends, and what options are available to the victim. I also recomend that the children be put into some counseling. They need to discuss what is happening in a theraputic way. They aren’t given choices in what is happening, and they may need a chance to vent. The victim may also stay out of fear of what will happen if they try to leave. That is a very valid fear. And if they have that fear, what I reccomend is to get in contact with a domestic violence shelter. Find out what options are available. Make a plan. Be firm and hold to the plan. It is scary, but so is staying in the relationship. Stay involved in the support group.

Sadly, the case I have today is about a young woman who didn’t want to stay in the relationship.

Linsi Light and Richard M. Wegmann II had been a couple. They didn’t live together, but they did live in the same building. And they broke up. Now I don’t claim to know if there had been problems with abuse in the relationship. All I really know is what I read that happened.

The couple were both 19 years old. They had been broken up for about a week. At some point, in the previous week, Linsi and he had been together and she felt nervous enough or fearful enough that she had burned Wegmann with a curling iron to get him away. She wanted the relationship to end, but Wegmann did not.

I don’t claim to know what happened when Linsi was killed by a single gunshot to the head. Much of that information won’t be available until the trial. All I know is that Wegmann was initially charged with negligent homicide. After a grand jury hearing that charge was changed to murder with a gun. Prosecutors say that change was due to some forensic information developed during the investigation. At this point it is not known what that information is.

When I read these stories, I really try to be fair. They were kids but young adults. Both were 19. Likely they hadn’t been out on their own for long. At 19 most people are still trying on different relationships, trying to find one that works for them. Sometimes they last, but many do not. Evidently Wegmann didn’t want the relationship to end.

Now Linsi is dead. Her family is going through the grieving for her loss, as well as the anger and frustration of trying to see that her murderer gets justice. And that still won’t bring her back. What happened is forever, and is a loss that will affect them the rest of their lives. Parents are not supposed to bury their children. Especially this way.

Wegmann’s family, will be worrying about their child. He is in jail. He is facing a sentence of 18 years to life in prison. While he will be alive, he won’t be there for them, he won’t be there for Christmas or Thanksgiving or any of the special times. They know he is young to be facing the hardened criminals he will face in prison. So they will worry. And grieve that the little boy they remember, could not have pulled a trigger on a gun and killed someone.

And Wegmann. He was 19, and in college. He had a future in front of him. And because of an instant when he pulled a trigger, now that is over. The woman he wanted to stay with is gone. Forever. He won’t be meeting any new women. And  his last memory of her, is with a gunshot to her head. His life will never be the same.

Yes, he is alive. And he will see his family, in limited visits in the prison. But he will have very limited contact with the outside world. Instead of classes, and tests, and dates, and all of the other things that college kids get involved in, maybe meeting someone else….his world will now be peopled with hardened criminals, a routine set up and demanded by others, memories of how she looked with the shot through her head. When he pulled that trigger, he not only lost her… he lost his chance at a good life.

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Was there anything that could have been done to change this story? I don’t know. I don’t don’t know the background, if there was any history of abuse or controlling behavior. It could be that the breakup brought out behavior and feelings that hadn’t been apparent before. But often there are signs. Anyone who is concerned about any behaviors in a relationship should seek out information from a domestic violence agency. They are a great resource.

Lost In Lima Ohio is also covering Linsi Light in her blog. You can check out her discussion here:

http://lostinlimaohio.blogspot.com/

And thanks to her for sending me the story.

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The trial begins

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And a big thank you to Lilo for helping me find the update.

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It has been 7 long months. The trial has been held, the evidence given, the witnesses heard, and a guilty verdict determined. After the long wait, often a trial is anti-climatic. Finally the moment arrives, the sentence given, and the realization hits. There are no winners here, everyone still loses. A young woman, lost forever, buried but not forgotten. A young man now to enter another stage of his life, locked away from family and friends.

I hope that everyone has learned something from this. An appreciation of how precious life is and how serious a matter personal responsibility is. Linsi and Ricky had both just entered their adult life. Both had a lot to look forward to. It took just an instant for all that to end. It cannot be changed, so we can only hope to learn from it.

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124 Comments

  1. concerned friend said,

    February 21, 2006 at 5:09 pm

    I am a close friend of the Wegmann family, and I know they are immeasurably sorry and saddenned by the loss of Linsi Light. I also knew her and I would like to thank you. Yours is the first blog, news article, or commentary I have read since this tragedy which doesn’t fail to remember that there are two families suffering right now. Accident or not(that is for the courts to decide, not the media or public), the lives of two families have been destroyed by this terrible event. It seems very difficult for the newspapers and many opinionated citizens of Ohio to keep that in mind.

    As American citizens, we have the right to free speech, but at what point is common decency lost? Everyone please remember as you weigh in on this is issue with hateful comments like “he should burn in hell for what he did”, that Ricky Wegmann… That is his name, not the snobby RICHARD WEGMANN II the news media uses in an attempt to portray him as a spoiled rich white kid… Anyway, remember that while something terrible has happened, Ricky Wegmann is a son, brother and friend to a large group of people that were not in that apartment and just simply want to wake up from this nightmare. Before this I had never known someone in this situation, and while its easy to pass judgement when its happening to someone else, its much harder to read it about someone you know. None of us were in that apartment… so please, don’t condemn Ricky right now, remember Linsi. Innocent until proven guilty, or have we forgotten.

  2. February 21, 2006 at 5:32 pm

    Concerned friend, thanks for stopping by my home.
    I try to be fair, though sometimes it is hard. The family had no choices here. And I am sure they are going through their own mixture of feelings here. Somehow, someway we have to get people to understand that one instanteous bad decision can not only change your life, but the lives of everyone around you. Thank you for joining in that effort.

  3. AnotherFriend said,

    March 1, 2006 at 8:48 pm

    I would also like to thank you for the sensitivity in your treatment of this. I’ve known Ricky’s parents since 1991 and remember him as a sweet, smart kid that was growing up in a loving home.

    While I did not know Linsi, my heart aches for both families — their private and public hells, unfortunately, are only just beginning. My thoughts and prayers are with them both…

  4. March 2, 2006 at 3:29 am

    Another Friend, thank you for stopping by. The next year is going to be terribly hard for both families. They are going to suffer terribly. Both families will need the support of their friends. Linsi’s family will always suffer, even after they learn they have to accept her loss. There will always be a hole left in their lives, an empty place at their table. They cannot no longer pick up the phone and talk to their loved one, or see her smile.
    For the Wegmann family, they had no choices in what happened. Yet they too will suffer. They also need the support of their friends. Their lives have also been changed. But at some point, they will come to the realization that they can see their loved one, even though it will be under difficult circumstances. Even so, they will never view him in quite the same way. Their reasons for mourning him are valid. They are mourning the child they knew. Now they have to come to terms with the man he has become.
    The next year will be one of the hardest years ever for both families. And it will be difficult for friends and for the community. Both families will at some point resent something the other family says or does. But another argument will not make this next year any easier, nor will it change what has already happened. It will just make the situation worse. Both families need respect for their individual problems they are facing. For both familes are having problems. Even though from the moment the gun was fired, their problems became very different.

  5. Christine said,

    March 3, 2006 at 5:38 pm

    I was a good friend of Ricky’s a few years back and his sister is my age. I am terribly sorry for the loss of Linsi and what happened to her she didnt deserve to die like that.
    Ricky’s family is in my family’s hearts and prayers for they too will be facing a difficult journey ahead.
    For Ricky, I am sorry you did this and sorry you will be suffering the rest of your life. You were a great friend to me and others and was always there when we needed you.
    For Linsi, I did not know you at all. But you were a wonderful person who will never be forgotten. You are loved and missed by many.
    Dont say horrible and hateful things about Ricky when you did not know him and the fact he did make a horrible choice. Innocent until proven guilty.

  6. David Hammond said,

    March 3, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    Anyone wishing to provide investigators with information relevant to this case can contact the Lima Police Department.
    Detective Joe Nolan 419-221-5292 or
    Identification Officer David Hammond 419-221-5111
    Thank you.

  7. Kyle said,

    March 6, 2006 at 11:03 pm

    Edited per HSH.. I knew him and linsi and cory and he was such a Edited, even before he ruined his life he was a Edited. everyone, EVERYONE was so gald when she dumped him after only 2 months for cory again. yeah it was an accident right… happens all the time Edited.. hope he has fun with the “hardened” (pun intended) criminals.
    problems? Edited.

  8. March 7, 2006 at 12:28 am

    Kyle, Welcome to my Home. Please treat it as such.
    I have edited your comment due to language. You have a right to your feelings and I understand that it is painful to lose a friend. It is especially painful to lose that friend at the hands of another. But while in my home, please use some respect toward me, if not toward the memory of your friend.
    Thank you.

  9. Kyle Kavanagh said,

    March 8, 2006 at 8:48 pm

    Sorry I am just outraged at the comments about “ricky” he was NOT a good person at all.

    kyledqqt@xmail.net

  10. March 8, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    Thank you for your consideration Kyle. Are you referring to what happened with Linsi or to something more?

  11. Kyle said,

    March 9, 2006 at 8:30 am

    I just knew Cory Carder and Linsi and met Richard once. He wasn’t a good person, you could just tell. Really we were so happy when Linsi broke up with him and started to see Cory again. She even seemed so much happier the last 2 weeks. I am outraged that people only see thier little “ricky” as how he was. He was so possesive, and im suprised linsi put up with him for the two months they were together. She was so beautiful… 😦

  12. March 9, 2006 at 12:49 pm

    Kyle, none of us wants to believe that we know anyone capable of killing someone else. It is even harder to imagine that, if you have kissed the tear stained cheeks of that child, turned out their bedroom lights, or washed their fingerprints off a wall.
    Kyle, your feelings of anger right now are very valid. You are suffering terribly because of your loss.
    I remember the day we buried my brother, as we were going to the graveyard……I looked out the car window and I couldn’t imagine how the rest of the world could go on, like nothing terrible had happened. But the world did go on, and so did I.
    Someday, you will be able to go on also. You won’t ever forget, and it will always hurt, but it will become bearable.

  13. December Brewster said,

    March 10, 2006 at 11:34 pm

    He was a sweet guy…. Never abusive or anything. I dated him before he dated her. I broke up with him and then he met her. He was a good kid and still is. I just want everyone to know that hes innocent even if you dont believe so and I saw him the week of when this happened. We hung out and drove around and he was fine and he told me that they werent together.

  14. December Brewster said,

    March 10, 2006 at 11:36 pm

    Also thank you for not being rude about this like some people are

  15. March 11, 2006 at 12:58 am

    The final judgement on guilt or innocence is determined by a court of law. And in that court, the standard is innocent until proven guilty by a preponderance of the evidence.
    However, you and I not being in the court have the right to develop our own opinion as to guilt or innocence, and to talk about those opinions. You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to mine even if the opinions are different.
    I confess I didn’t know either LInsi or Ricky. But from what I read, the fact that he pullled the trigger doesn’t seem to be in dispute, it is the circumstances under which he pulled the trigger that seems to be in dispute.
    Unfortunately, with a gag order in place it is going to be hard to follow what is going on in the trial, unless you are in attendance. I would suggest that you do attend as much of the trial as you can, in order to answer any questions you may have as to his guilt or innocence.
    One thing that I would like to offer, is that no matter how well we may think we know someone else- we usually don’t know how they will react in every situation under all circumstances. I don’t claim to know what those circumstances were, but hopefully that is something that will be answered in court. And at least you might come to some understanding, if not acceptance.

  16. Kyle said,

    March 11, 2006 at 10:03 pm

    Rude, I am just saying the facts. Sure yeah, he is innocent.. what? lol I just accidentally shot the girl that just dumped me in the face… We will see at trial. I pray that he gets life in jail, and I don’t think there is any way he wont.

  17. March 12, 2006 at 1:28 am

    At this point there is only two people who really know what happened that night. One is dead and the other is bound by a gag order. Friends and family of both Ricky and Linsi are grieving. This is the worse thing that both sets of friends can have imagined to have happened. But there is one thing that can make the situation worse. And that is if the two sets of friends should start a fight. Accept that everybody is grieving here, even if it is for different reasons.
    You all don’t have to like each other. Just accept that it is a horrible situation for all of you. Linsi’s family and friends have suffered a horrible loss, I think we can all agree about that. Ricky’s friend’s don’t understand how or why it happened. They can love the guy, and still hate what he did. In some ways he betrayed them also, because I am hearing a lot of shock from them, they didn’t think he would ever do this. And I believe that if they had been with him that night, it wouldn’t have happened.
    Treat each other with at least some respect. Allow each other to do their own grieving.
    Arguing or fighting will only make a horrible situation worse, and will still not change what happened or make you feel any better. It will only make your friends and family feel worse. And will also make both Linsi’s and Ricky’s families feell worse.

  18. Lana said,

    March 13, 2006 at 8:28 am

    December Brewster , you are lucky he didnt shoot you in the head when you broke up with him, he is crazy and is going to prison for a long time.

  19. Christine said,

    March 16, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    You guys are being immature and rude like december said. I hate how people are so incredibly mean and hurtful when it comes to these things. Yes, according to evidence right now it was not an accident. I have known him for 3 years and he never did anything wrong but stood up for his friends. He has now done something wrong but i feel he also can learn from it. We all make mistakes in our life and he made a terrible one and took the life of linsi unfortunately. But i know he was not a bad person in the heart and still isnt. Dont judge a person by what they have done but how they are personally. Kyle, you met him ONE time. That shows how judgemental you are as a person and who knows maybe youll be the one to kill next know one knows. So dont judge people unless you know them personally.

  20. Kyle said,

    March 16, 2006 at 10:09 pm

    I met him once, but I KNEW Linsi, I KNOW Cory. I KNOW what Linsi said about him, I KNOW he was not a good person. It’s that simple. He is an evil person. Some comments are over the line, but it’s warrented. I just don’t like how everyone is saying how good he was. I admit, I only met him once, but even then I could tell how much of an (excuse my langauge) asshole, he is. I am not the only one that feels this way. Linsi is gone, there is nothing we can do about that now. But we can see justice when Richard gets life in prison.

  21. Christine said,

    March 19, 2006 at 10:30 pm

    Ok what we are all saying is he WAS a good person before this happened we dont know what caused him to exactly snap like this and dont act you know kyle b/c you dont either. You didnt know him before this and your a judgemental person after only meeting him once he was a A**Hole? You met him ONCE! So ok he made a huge mistake and will pay the price for this beautiful girl’s death. But dont judge people by how you met them ONE TIME! Your judgemental and obvisously need to grow up if you judge people that quickly. I never said he was a good person now…but he WAS, he was always there for you and december was never treated wrongly by ricky as she said so LANA, you need to watch what you say by the fact december dated him for a long time. She knew the real ricky and your comment about how lucky she was he didnt shoot her. Grow up and stop talking about it a girl is gone b/c a guy made a bad judgement and snapped and took her life no one can do anything about it so stop saying nasty hatred comments your not the jury you wont decide what he gets as punishment. You never know where you’ll be in 1-5 years!

  22. Greg said,

    March 20, 2006 at 1:59 am

    Kyle was right on when she made her judgment. By only meeting this terrible guy once she could tell he was trouble. It only took one meeting for her to tell he was a bad person. I didn’t meet him but I knew Linsi and I knew the kind of things she told us about him. She didn’t even think he was a good person either and she said he was pyscho. Did I read somthing about him in the paper how he was invloved in trying to sell a gun to an undercover? Also didn’t he beat up a security officer? And him and Cory almost got into fights a few times. This man is not a “good” man.

  23. Christine said,

    March 20, 2006 at 7:28 pm

    I am sorry but your full of crap. I live in Springboro where the whole incident with the gun happened it is a totally different story and a whole other incident ricky was not involved in. He knew the kids involved in it along with everyone else in springboro. He didnt beat up a security officer. Your full of crap and you need to research before you accuse people of crap on here. State the facts…HE SHOT LINSI AND HE IS BEING CHARGED FOR IT. There thats the truth not stop making crap up on here please.

  24. Christine said,

    March 20, 2006 at 7:36 pm

    Just stop ok…this is crap the whole undercover gun thing is in springboro and it involves totally different people ok? I live in springboro and know the kids in that case. He didnt beat a security officer up what he did was he shot linsi ok…just drop it and leave it at that this is driving me insane how people on here are so hateful and cruel.

  25. Lucas said,

    March 20, 2006 at 8:06 pm

    No I just read it in the paper. Richard’s name was released as trying to sell a gun to an undercover police officer. Unless there is more than one Richard Wegmann II who shot Linsi Light who lived in Springboro, then this is the same guy.

    Luke

  26. Lucas said,

    March 20, 2006 at 8:14 pm

    http://www.limaohio.com/story.php?IDnum=23665

    There is the story. So Richard is not involved in this at all? Hes screwed, and we are ALL lovin it.

  27. Christine said,

    March 20, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    your an idiot…it said …”Wegmann’s only connection to the drug cases is that his name was mentioned as the recipi-ent of a gun an undercover agent was attempting to buy, Burke said. ” so there your not reading it right and your as sick as he is if your loving this you are just about as bad as he is. His family is suffering too. And you loving it? Your sick and have no heart. Grow up and learn to be respectful. I LIVE IN SPRINGBORO I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE DRUG CASE ALOT OF US HERE KNEW THE KIDS INVOLVED A**HOLE. Your rude and immature

  28. Christine said,

    March 20, 2006 at 8:30 pm

    he didnt sell it to him we know who did that part in selling the undercover agent a gun. it wasnt ricky he was in jail at the time dipshit. This happened in the beginning of march and ricky was in jail at that time. So read before you start saying crap.

  29. Lucas said,

    March 20, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    We are LOVING that he is not getting off with a slap on the wrist just because HE said it was an accident. We don’t like the fact that a beautiful woman is dead and the scum that murdered her in cold blood is trying to get off.
    They brought this other kid from Springboro to Lima court. Why would they do that if Richard was not invloved? To much stuff is adding up on this kid.

  30. Christine said,

    March 20, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    yes they brought another person in b/c him and ricky were friends…and the kid brought up ricky’s name but said he wasnt involved i know the kid so shove it.

  31. Kyle said,

    March 21, 2006 at 1:32 am

    Oh snap! Looks like Richard is gonna get it. I read in the news about him trying to sell that cop a gun too. He belongs in prison, for life.

  32. March 21, 2006 at 3:29 pm

    I have to say something here. I understand that everyone feels terribly hurt. I understand that everyone knows they have lost a friend. And I understand that everyone feels hurt and frustrated and betrayed. I really do understand that.
    But now I want everyone to understand a few other things. By keeping up the potshots at each other, you are actually taking the focus off of what has happened. You are taking the focus off of Linsi and off of Ricky. You are making it about yourselves. These families need time to deal with their losses. And as long as you all keep trying to make it about yourselves, you will make it harder for them to deal with it. This isn’t kindergaten where all of your friends have to be my friends and all of my enemies have to be your enemies too. This is real life. Everybody has different memories of the persons involved, and are trying to make sense of a senseless death. Everyone will deal with it in different ways, no matter who they were friends with. The longer you try to put off dealing with it by sniping at others, the harder it will be for you and for others to deal with it.
    This next year is going to be very hard for both families. Linsi’s family will be dealing with a lot of firsts. The first Mother’s day and Father’s day without her. The first birthday, Thanksgiving and Christmas without her. They will also be trying to hold up for a trial that will be very difficult for them. Linsi’s friends should be concentrating on them. Spend time with them. Share your memories about her. Let them know your feelings and how much you miss her. Ask them what you can do to help them. Cry with them. Take flowers and letters to her grave.

    Ricky’s family will also be going through a lot. They are trying to adjust their picture of their little boy, and trying to figure out how and why this happened. They will also be dealing with their own version of firsts. And they will also be gearing up for a trial they dread. Share some time with them. See if they need anything from you. Tell them of the good memories you have of Ricky. Cry with them.

    And share with each other. Actually open up and talk to your friends and family about your memories. Yes, it will make you cry. But believe it or not, it will help you heal. You won’t forget. You will always remember Linsi and Ricky. Use that, to help make you stronger. Learn from it, when to walk away when you are angry.

    I don’t expect you all to be friends. But I do expect you all to show respect- for each other, and for the memories you have. And for their families. I really do feel for all of you. None of you should have to be dealing with this. But life isn’t always fair. And you do have to deal with it. And you need to let others deal with it in their own ways.
    Please.

  33. Christine said,

    March 21, 2006 at 4:56 pm

    yes im sorry i didnt need to get so angry but it was just i knew him and i know the whole gun incident in springboro i live here and know the kids. I just dont want people saying horrible hateful things like were loving he is suffering and stuff like that it is cruel to his family and friends to hear such things. Were hurt to that he killed such a wonderful human being. She didnt deserve it she just wanted to leave and get away and he snapped which took her life and i cant believe it. thank you

  34. March 21, 2006 at 4:58 pm

    I understand the anger. But it won’t help. The only thing that misdirected anger accomplishes is to make a horrible situation even worse.

  35. March 21, 2006 at 10:19 pm

    I don’t know who all reads here. But I have a feeling some of you are young. Likely this is your first real experience with loss. You may be bewildered at the anger you feel over little things. You may be bewildered by the reactions of friends and their way of grieving. Nobody has asked for help, but I am gonna give it anyway.

    Here are some things I have learned about grief. Not everyone grieves in the same way. Some that is all they want to talk about. Some don’t want to talk about it at all. Some become reckless, and some become too quiet. If you hve a friend doing the last two, keep an eye on them.

    No matter how people grieve though, they all go through certain stages.

    Denial and Isolation.
    At first, we tend to deny the loss has taken place, and may withdraw from our usual social contacts. This stage may last a few moments, or longer.
    Anger.
    The grieving person may then be furious at the person who inflicted the hurt (even if she’s dead), or at the world, for letting it happen. He may be angry with himself for letting the event take place, even if, realistically, nothing could have stopped it.
    Bargaining.
    Now the grieving person may make bargains with God, asking, “If I do this, will you take away the loss?”
    Depression.
    The person feels numb, although anger and sadness may remain underneath.
    Acceptance.
    This is when the anger, sadness and mourning have tapered off. The person simply accepts the reality of the loss.
    http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-THE-3.html

    This is not to say that you go through those steps one after the other, you may bounce through one then to the next and go back to the previous. People will stay in different stages longer or shorter lengths of time than someone else. That site I linked above? It has some helpful tips, very much worth reading.
    Some people think that only family can grieve. That isn’t true. Anyone can feel grief at a loss. And it doesn’t have to be a death either. It can be the loss of a valued job, or a relationship. Or a friendship. Your gonna hate me for this, but that is something you are all suffering. So believe it or not, you have something in common. You may be grieving different things, but you are all grieving.

  36. Lana said,

    March 22, 2006 at 9:02 pm

    Noone is making this about themselves. Right now Linsi is gone. The goal now is to find out what really happened and then find justice.
    All of Linsi’s friends even friends of both Linsi and Rick said “I could almost see this comming” No way can anyone predict this comming but once it happens we could look back and ask ourselves why we didn’t see this. There were so many signs. I’ll also admit like Kyle I was Corys friend so I didn’t talk to Linsi to often. I met her first in October, then again in December when her and Cory were dating. Then In Feb her and Cory started comming around again. I only met Richard once. Cory Linsi my boyfriend and I went on a double date to bdubs on Feb 7th. When we dropped Linsi off Richard was so ….ed that she was with Cory. She said that he was always yelling and even broke her cell phone because she called Cory on it. He was SO angry that day. The Richard we all met was not the Ricky you all knew in high school. Thats all we are saying, we just are tired of the “he was a good guy, he only killed once so far so he shouldnt spend life in jail” lines. Homesweethome you yourself said “they will likely do it again if they dont get help, ect.” but he pretends its an accident he is not going to get the help he needs. I feel for him, his life is messed up, really his family is screwed. Its sad, but he deserves everything he gets.

  37. March 22, 2006 at 9:55 pm

    My concern is not so much the comments about Ricky. My concern is the anger I am seeing between the two groups. Her friends and his friends. Ricky has admitted pulling the trigger. He will be held for justice for that. No matter how many attorneys, or how much talk- there will be a trial, and there will be a judgement. But he acted alone. His friends and her friends should not be held responsible for his choices and his actions. Yes, his friends may be in some denial. That isn’t really unusual. They are still trying to incorporate the picture of the Ricky pulling the trigger, with the picture they knew as Ricky. The person they knew- they didn’t see it then. That doesn’t change the fact that it happened. They just need time to assimilate it. Most people, only let others see the part of them that they want known. The fact that he was a person capable of pulling a trigger is a fact that he didn’t want known, or maybe he didn’t even know himself. So I can understand their shock and even some denial. And they are trying to cope with the loss of the friendship they knew, in such a destructive way. It is different with what Linsi’s friends are going through, but it is there nevertheless.
    I can also understand the anger that Linsi’s friends feel against Ricky. And maybe since they saw Ricky in different situations, maybe they did see something different in him. Or maybe it is now only something they see in hindsight. But either way, they lost a friend in a horrific way. So I can understand their anger.
    Just don’t make the mistake of blaming others, for the actions that Ricky took. Allow for the fact that Ricky’s friends are also coping with feelings of loss, and allow them to come to terms with what happened.

    For Ricky’s friends, at least acknowlege that Linsi’s friends have a reason to feel hurt and angry. And that they don’t see Ricky the way you have in the past. Understand they are hurting right now. And angry people who are in pain, often say things that maybe you don’t agree with. But the anger they feel is valid and for a good reason.

  38. Kyle said,

    March 24, 2006 at 8:23 pm

    I found this on the (removed per request) message bored.

    http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000003/HTML/20060206-6-035261.html

  39. March 24, 2006 at 8:49 pm

    That fiero link is a great link, Kyle. I wish she had listened.
    Shame on you for the Rockstarromeos link though. I see nothing on it about this situation. I suspect you are spamming me, but if I am wrong please point out the connection to me. I am goning to leave it up, only cause I like you.

  40. March 28, 2006 at 9:28 am

    You all were the first group of people who ever commented on this blog. And I want to thank you all for being so nice. And yeah, you’ll laugh- for being so respectful. You are all a great group of people.
    And you are reaching a crucial stage here. Some people are moving on with their daily lives. They haven’t forgotten, they still remember, but they have been able to go on. That is the way life works. The living go on.
    Some people may not be there yet. That is ok. You go through at your own pace, and some need more time than others. But, if you are still feeling desperate, or hopeless, or if it is still causing problems in your daily lives, I want you to talk to somebody. Someone you trust, who has given you good advice before. (and no not the guy who took you out drinking Sat. nite). Talk with someone who has kicked your butt when you were acting stupid, and who has given you some good adive before. A parent, a minister, or some other trusted adult..
    You aren’t stupid, you aren’t crazy, and you aren’t slow. But just like sometimes when you have a cold, you get over it by yourself, and sometimes you need to go to a doctor. Sometimes you may need help with getting over a loss. Do not be afraid to reach out to someone and tell them.
    If you have a friend who is having trouble. Talk to them. Tell them they have to talk to a trusted adult or a doctor. Go with them and help them explain it. Tell them, they are ok, they just need some time and some help. Everybody needs help sometimes.
    You may all have times when you get angry all over again. Talk. Talk. Talk. Not about being angry so much, but about why you are angry, and why you miss your friend.
    When the trial comes around, you may find a lot of the feelings coming back. That is ok. It happens. You will get angry. You will miss your friend. You will be sad. But you will get through this.
    And, hey……stop in and see me now and then and let me know how you guys are doing!

  41. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    March 31, 2006 at 6:39 pm

    I have known Linsi since before we started going to school together. Everyone in Montpelier knew her, she was the one that kept everyone happy and knew how to have fun. I am only 19 and this isn’t my first lost, I have lost two other friends, so don’t give me crap that it’s my first lost. I have been through this before and this one hurts the most. I met Ricky a couple times when she brought him home. You could tell jsut by talking to him that he wasn’t a nice person at all. Linsi deserved better than him. I have talked to many people that knew him and everyone I have talked to said how he wasn’t nice and no one thought very nicely of him. Everyone seems nice at the start, if you only knew Ricky for a couple years that doesn’t mean crap….maybe you just weren’t a good enough friend for him to tell you exactly what he was feeling…did you ever think of that?? Well now Linsi is gone and I hope and pray that he spends the rest of his life in jail and never get out. Oh, also about him being a spoiled white rich kid….HE IS!!!!

  42. Christine said,

    March 31, 2006 at 6:51 pm

    listen you need to grow up b/c not even kyle or lana talked like that…i did know him for more than a couple years so dont talk crap. Your the person that is trying to make this about you obviously. Kyle and Lana were at least alot nicer and now we all know and talk nicely to eachother about what happened. If you want to talk on here then be nice and respectful. Ricky’s parents or sister might read this and be terribly hurt b/c there going through alot of stuff right now too. Just grow up and don’t make this about yourself.

  43. Christine said,

    March 31, 2006 at 6:53 pm

    “Everyone seems nice at the start, if you only knew Ricky for a couple years that doesn’t mean crap….maybe you just weren’t a good enough friend for him to tell you exactly what he was feeling…did you ever think of that?? ” That is rude and disrespectful. You only met him twice and somehow listen didn’t ever tell YOU how scared she was ever think of that one. Just talk respectfully and b/c we are all in shock too.

  44. David Hammond said,

    March 31, 2006 at 11:27 pm

    Anyone wishing to provide relevant information to investigators can contact David Hammond 419-221-5111 (dave.hammond@cityhall.lima.oh.us) or Joe Nolan at 419-227-4444 at the Lima Police Department.

  45. March 31, 2006 at 11:44 pm

    Linsi….(RIP) Thank you for coming by. It is always a shock when someone so young and vibrant is alive one minute, then suddenly is no longer there. There was no long illness allowing for preparation for the inevitable. When a young person dies, it is out of the natural order of things, you normally expect that one day you will lose your grandparents, then will one day lose parents. You never expect the loss of someone your own or a similiar age. It is out of order and therefore more of a shock. And being so sudden, there was no time to prepare.
    So yes, you are angry. You have a lot to be angry about. Just make sure that you don’t direct that anger somewhere where it isn’t deserved, toward and innocent person. who was not involved with her murder.
    Yes, Ricky’s friends are grieving. Have you ever had a friend that you trusted completely, sudden turn on you- do somthing so out of character for the picture you had of them, that it left you with your jaw hanging? In this case, since he had done nothing to them, they wanted to be a true friend, to defend him even though they can’t defend his actions. That is ok. They are not justifing what he did. They are only justifying the picture of him, a picture they developed over years of knowing him.
    You met him and didn’t like him. That happens. Sometimes people don’t hit it off, right from the start. Everybody doesn’t have to like everybody else. You didn’t have to like Ricky, and you don’t have to like Ricky’s friends. But at least show some respect toward them. Likely, had they been with Ricky at that moment, you wouldn’t be here now.
    And if for no other reason, be respectful for Linsi’s parents and family’s sake’s. They are already grieving. They have one of life’s greatest losses to deal with. They have lost their beatiful daughter. Allow them the respect to deal with that loss, without adding in arguments her friends are having and the turmoil that causes.
    Linsi…(RIP) I understand your anger. But can you find a way to deal with that anger, in a way that will work for you? Talk to someone like a parent, a minister, or a doctor? Deal with it now. If you don’t it will be destructive to you.
    When we are hurting, often our instincts tell us to curl into ourselves, to become more or less motionless. Don’t allow yourself to do that. That is paralyzing. Get out and do something active. Go for walks or runs. Go to the gym. Play basketball or some sport. Do something active. But do this along with the talking, talking in a theraputic way to someone who can help you.
    Then later, after you have had some time, you can put that feeling to use. You can volunteer time at a domestic violence shelter or other service organization.
    You are angry and hurting. I can understand that. But don’t become a second victim to what has happened. Take steps to help yourself.

  46. March 31, 2006 at 11:52 pm

    Christine, thank you for stopping in.

  47. April 1, 2006 at 1:14 am

    Please note…… I am not from Lima. I didn't know Linsi and I don't know Ricky. I don't know any of their friends either. My only investment in these circumstances, are in the interest of justice. David Hammond of the Lima PD has posted here twice. I am aware of it, and in the interest of furthering justice, I don't have a problem with it. He is asking for information. He isn't asking for information for or against either party, just information about the circumstances. I encourage anyone who knows (or who is wondering) of information about this case to contact the Lima PD. Not sure if your information is relevant? Call him and let him make that decision. It isn't tattling, it is called being a good citizen and the furtherance of justice. It is called making sure the trial is a fair and complete representation of the circumstances.
    So I also am asking, if you are wondering if something you know might be relevent to the situation, give him a call.

    Maybe you are afraid of getting someone in trouble. And that can be a hard decision. About all I can say is that as adults, we are all responsible for our own decisions and actions, and be aware of the fact that one day we may be held accountable for them. Actions were taken in the near past, and it is now time for the accounting. Keep in mind, you aren't being asked to judge those choices and actions. You are only being asked, as a responsible citizen, to bring them forward.

  48. linsi... (RIP) said,

    April 3, 2006 at 9:24 pm

    I met Ricky more than once. All her friends did tell her there was something wrong with the kid. We knew something was weird with him…she left him didn’t she? Sorry, but I just get so ticked off with people saying things about what happened when they don’t even know what happened. Don’t you think if she had to burn him with the curling iron to get him away there was something wrong? I know more about this than most people do, she was like my sister and she told me things. I know the stories of what he did that hurt her and how he was to her, and most of you don’t. I know everyone is grieving, I have talked many times to Linsi’s father and mother. Also, I am getting help, I just hope Ricky understands what he has done and how many people he has hurt. I do feel bad for his family, but all of you just need to realize how hard it is for our small town. And I didn’t make it all about myself. I talked about all of my friends and I was just explaining how everyone here looked at him and what we know about the situation. You might be in shock, but then again you didn’t have to attend a best friends funeral.

  49. April 3, 2006 at 10:14 pm

    RIP….Linsi, I am glad you are talking and getting some help. And I don’t mean to trivalize your anger. It is very understandable.
    Can you accept that Ricky’s friends saw him in a different situation than your friends did? And that that may have influenced the different opinions? Maybe they usually saw him alone or with other long time friends, you saw him where he was trying to fit into a different group, when his only common link with your group was Linsi, the person he was dating. I am just guessing, but that can cause a person to behave differently.
    I have also heard that this was difficult for your community. I also grew up in a small town, and I know that something like this shakes up the whole town. In a small town, either you are related, you know them, you know their family, you know someone who knew them. Thus, it touches each person personally.
    It will take time, you will always remember, but at some point it will get a little easier.

  50. Kyle said,

    April 4, 2006 at 12:22 pm

    I have been thinking about this alot. You say that to Richards friends he seemed like a good guy. Of course any of my good friends I could never see doing anything like this also. But Richard was messed up, he really was not right in the head before all this happend. His friends, ill admit, might not have been able to see this after knowing him for so long. I didn't know him before a few months ago so I cannot say when he became so possesive and UNindependant, but he sure as hell was in January and it was obvious. Sometimes you cannot see people changing even though they are because you see them so much and so long, but to an outsider it stands out. Does it seem wierd that all of Linsi's friends could see in this man, evil, right away only after one or two encounters? His family is going through a lot, and his friends they have to accept that he is a killer and that he will be in prison for the rest of his life. Thats a lot to take in. Still it disgust me with how much legal support his family is "buying". It's not that they shouldnt have good lawyers, it's the fact they are using the defense to make it seem like an accident. He and his family and friends need to except that he pourposly took the life of a beautiful young girl with her whole life ahead of her, just because she didn't want to be his girlfriend anymore.
    Kyle

  51. April 4, 2006 at 2:18 pm

    Thank you Kyle. You have come a long way.
    I am a parent. And while as a parent, I like to hope that I would encourage my child to take responsibility for his/her own actions, I have to be honest. The thought of the possibilities in the case would scare me to death. Under the same circumstances, as a parent I would want to hire the best defense team as possible, just to make sure my child was adequately represented and got the best deal possible, while still taking responsibility for what he/she did.
    We have an adversarial justice system. In other words, it is the prosecutor's job to present what the law enforcement thinks the evidence shows happened. They look at the witness statements, the circumstansial evidence, the physical evidence and they develop a theory as to what occurred.
    It is the defense attorneys job, to look at the same information, and to develop any other possible theories that could fit as to what happened. That's pretty simplified, both sets of attorneys do a lot of other things.
    And they seem to be doing their job. This is to ensure that all possibilities are looked at when it goes to trial.
    But in the end, neither set of attorneys will decide what happens in the trial. They will both present their cases. Sometimes when a case goes to trial, I don't always agree with their decisions as to what evidence will go in for instance. Or I may not always agree with the defence theories. But I agree with the principal in the trial. And that is to present all the available evidence fairly, to look at all possible theorys as to what happened. And then the jury decides what they think most likely happened. And they decide not only the guilt or innocence, but also the degree of culpabibility. In other words, whether it is first degree, second degree or so forth.
    So you see, the defense attorneys are doing their job. And to be honest, since we don't really know what all the evidence is yet, and we weren't there, we can't really say what happened yet. That is why I encourage everyone that can to go to the trial. To see for themselves what is presented. That is why I also encourage everyone who may know anything at all about the circumstances in the case to contact the PD. Part of making sure the trial is fair, is to make sure that all available information is given to them, to let them decide if it is something that should be looked at in this case. No matter if it helps Ricky or hurts his case. I also have to fairly suggest that if anyone has any information that may help Ricky, that they make contact with the defense attorneys as well as the PD.
    If I am wrong on any of the explanation as to the court system, I hope someone will correct me.

  52. Kyle said,

    April 6, 2006 at 6:22 pm

    “He didnt beat up a security officer. Your full of crap and you need to research before you accuse people of crap on here.”

    IT was a POLICE officer. At least thats what was said today in court, on the record. I know somone who was there. No offense Christine but maybe you are defending your friend to quick without looking at the facts yourself. ?

  53. April 7, 2006 at 1:01 am

    And I thought you were coming along Kyle 😦 Please do not snipe at other posters. If you would like to debate a point, please think of a less confrontive way to do it, and if possible back it up with documentation. A link to a court transcript or a newspaper article would do it.
    This is for both of you. Whenever there is a point of debate, then there are often several rumors or versions of the event. Whenever you accept a second or third hand version of events, as fact then you are also accepting the angers, biases and predjudices of others. That will often get you in trouble. If you would like to debate a point, whenever possible, back it up with documentation.

  54. Kyle said,

    April 7, 2006 at 1:48 pm

    http://www.limaohio.com/story.php?IDnum=24402
    “Nolan also testified that Wegmann had the potential to be violent, and including as a child he assaulted a police officer, for which he was ordered to receive anger-management counseling.”

    “Nolan went over a laundry list of reasons against lower bond, including saying his investiga-tion has revealed Wegmann was a drug dealer last summer in his hometown of Springboro.”

    Check and mate.

  55. April 7, 2006 at 2:50 pm

    Thank you for the link Kyle. And I don’t know how to play chess, BTW.

  56. Kyle said,

    April 7, 2006 at 10:47 pm

    I just don’t like my friends being told they are full of crap and they and I don’t know what we are talking about. Read my the last sentance of my first post to yourself in a soft tone of voice. I don’t think I was really sniping her, I was trying to prove a point that we are not all just making these things up about this guy. She called Lucas “a dipshit” saying Richard was not involved in the drug case at all. Now we learn in court that he was a drug dealer. Also she told Greg he was full of crap and to “stop making things up”.
    If she honestly did not know he was a drug dealer and that he had assulted a cop then she really had no clue on the type of person he was. These things all happened while he lived in Sprinboro also. It was a serious question. Christine, maybe you are defending your friend to quick without looking at the facts yourself. ?

  57. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    April 7, 2006 at 11:03 pm

    I can accept that Ricky’s friends and family looked at it differently than we did in Montpelier. It wasn’t that Ricky was uncomfortable around us, we all tried hard to make him feel like he belonged with us. He talked to us fine. You could just tell that there was something more wrong with him then not fitting in. Kyle, I don’t know who you are, but thanks…..it means a lot to me and my friends that someone believes the same as what we do. Thanks

  58. April 8, 2006 at 7:09 am

    If it was me, I imagine I would be feeling some betrayal. That a friend of mine could be so involved in criminal behavior, and I not have realized it. Or maybe, they knew some of it and dismissed it as being what kids go through or something done for kicks. Not anything that really meant anything.
    If it was me, I might want to cling to what I thought I knew about my friend, because I thought I knew him. And like I said, they saw him in a different environment as you. Likely they shared some secrets with him, or kept some of their secrets. He may have stood up for them at times they needed it. Their memories of him are good. Yours aren’t. So they get upset when someone trys to destroy their good memories.
    Like I said, being angry is understandable in both of you. But anger directed at each other is misdirected. They didn’t kill Linsi. You didn’t put Ricky in jail. But, this is one of those times when you have to bite the bullet. This is the way things are. You don’t have to like each other, but you do have to allow that you each have some rights to your own positions. Give each other some leeway. Because this isn’t easy on any of you.
    About the only thing that you can do in this case, is to make sure that all the truth comes out. The good, the bad and the ugly. Then it is up to the jury to look at the facts and make the decisions. Not your job and not theirs.
    See, there are two courts going on here. The courts of justice and the court of public opinion. All they are really asking is that the decisions not be made in the court of public opinion before it goes through the court of justice and all the facts are heard. And I think that is a fair request.
    Have you ever heard of a lynch mob? A lot of years ago, those really happened. And sometimes innocent people were lynched, and killed because people didn’t want to wait till the facts came out in court. That was the court of public opinion. Rumors aren’t facts. Facts get presented in court.
    Ricky will go to court. All the evidence will be presented. The jury will get the case with all the facts. The jury will make the decision. You have to trust in the justice system.

  59. ma said,

    April 8, 2006 at 11:33 am

    Hello! Sorry, but “good” people don’t shoot people. No body knows what happened? Someone shot and killed someone that is what happened. She is dead. End of story. There is no reason for the boy to kill her. He could have turned and walked away. Sick and tired of people blaming the victims of crime and making excuses for the criminals. Bullies rule. If you get raped, or murdered it’s your fault not the rapist or the murderer. The parents can’t see their precious baby boy? Gee, no one is going to see the girl again. Ever. But what should they care about her? They think the world revolves around them & their child.

  60. April 8, 2006 at 12:55 pm

    Actually Ma, I agree with you in part. I wasn’t there. I cannot actually say what was said or done there. But once it goes to court, some of those questions will be answered.
    I live in a small town. I have known of several tragedies, including a close one. I know how rumors travel, some are valid, some aren’t. Some are partially valid, some have no truth in them at all. And I know how those rumors hurt. No matter who the rumors are about.
    When it goes to court, the evidence will be looked at, the witnesses will testify, and the real facts will be known. Then is the time that a conviction should be made and a sentence provided.
    I know that the pain and anger don’t want to wait till court. But if that pain and anger is allowed to get out of hand or get misdirected, a horrible situation can get worse.
    That is all I am saying. Do I agree with Linsi’s murder? No. Do I blame Linsi for her murder? No. Do I believe Linsi’s murder was wrong. Yes. But I also believe that the facts need to be heard in court, so that rumor can be separated from fact and the real truth can come out and the questions answered. Then and only then should a sentence be applied.
    But, taking out the anger on people who were not involved in the murder is also wrong.

  61. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    April 9, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    No one said any of us were blaming his friends. We are just simply trying to tell what we know and feel. I am close to the family, so I know more facts than most people. I’m not saying anything that wasn’t truthful. I was just simply stating what my friends though about ricky and how we know he treated her. I also understand that if you know someone long enough, you can’t see their faults. His friends just need to realize that they don’t understand what we are going through, we will NEVER see Linsi again. I will never be able to hang out with her or even talk to her anymore. Ricky is still alive, still able to talk, although he will be in prison, he is still breathing and his parents will still be able to see him and talk to him. We will never be able to do that with Linsi, she’s gone, not just in jail, but up in Heaven. I know how it feels to have a friend go to jail…a relative even, and let me say that doesn’t hurt as bad as losing someone. Thanks for letting me speak my mind.

  62. April 10, 2006 at 12:59 am

    RIP….Linsi, you are allways free to share here. And you do very well in expressing yourself.
    I realize the whole thing is unfair. Because the only way to truly be fair is impossible. There is no way to bring Linsi back to life, and that is the only truly fair solution there could be.
    Since that solution is unavailable, then we are stuck with the second solution. The suspect goes to court, stands trial, then is subject to a conviction and punishment.
    I know that until the trial, you will never be truly able to move on, because you are still “waiting”. And I know that is hard. But the trial will come….eventually. You just have to hang in there.

  63. Cory C. said,

    April 10, 2006 at 12:30 pm

    Could you please delete the link to my personal website. You can leave the Fiero one or whatever but I don’t like the new traffic to the other one…
    Thanks so much
    Cory

  64. April 10, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    No problem, Cory. All ya had to do is ask. Does that make me "easy"? It is a nice site BTW. My above comment was meant as a bit of teasing, as I didn't see any relation to the situation. A bit awkward I know, but that is me sometimes.

  65. David said,

    April 14, 2006 at 5:27 pm

    Nobody is getting anywhere by arguing about this. Do you think Linsi would laugh when she read this, or do you think she would feel down right horrible? Linsi is the only one who knows what Rick was like during that relationship. Yes, she did happen to tell some people (myself and others) about it. We only know some of the information. We don’t know what happened every day that they were together. We can’t make all these judgements without good reason. Yes, he did kill Linsi, but did you know him? His friends will have one view and we will have another. I do see him as a physco, but only because he shot and killed Linsi. There were a few times at work where I had saw him. The last night, the day before she was shot, he was there. He was there for about 3 hours. He wouldn’t take any other waiter/waitress besides Linsi. He watched her as she walked about the place. At one point, she had even asked me to walk her up front, so I did. The last memory I have of her is seeing her walk away from work with Cory just turning around and laughing and saying “see ya flava!” and she walked away. I have more memories of her.. but that one just sticks in my mind more than others.
    So, is there anyway that we could just stop all the name calling and just live our lives and wait for the final judgement?
    Me and Linsi were friends. That’s all I ask.
    R.I.P. Linsi.

  66. April 14, 2006 at 5:53 pm

    Thank you David. Wise words. More arguing is not what is needed. Remember LInsi as she was before that happened, those are the important memories. Concentrate on remembering your friend, not on what happened. Those memories are precious.

  67. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    April 14, 2006 at 8:37 pm

    The answer to your question David is that Linsi would be right here proving her point. I know that if this would have happened to any of her friends, she would be in the same spot. Linsi was the most outgoing person I have ever met. She loved each and every friend she ever made. Linsi would fight until this case gets settled. If the case got settled and not how she wanted it, she would fight and fight until she got what she wanted. I’m not trying to be on here and aruge, that’s not what I’m trying to do, I’m just trying to do what Linsi would have done for any of us. Thanks!!

  68. David said,

    April 15, 2006 at 8:01 pm

    Yes, I know Linsi would have done that for any of us. But we all know that when it came to something happening to her.. she would tell us that she could handle it herself. She was a very strong person and always will be.

  69. Christine said,

    April 18, 2006 at 9:05 pm

    ok look sorry i didn’t know him when i was little but i can believe what i want with the whole drug dealer thing….if you lived in springboro and someone was known as a drug dealer everyone would know about it…the school is loud and when something is said everyone will know…so ok im done i just dont want people yelling at me on here…i wrote those names b/c i was upset and i apologize for calling people names it was immature and down right childish. I am sorry for everyone who is suffering with Linsi’s loss. It is hard for us here though to realize a friend killed someone else. He wasn’t like that here ask his other girlfriends. So he could have changed I admit I wouldn’t have known. But I just want to stop the arguing b/c Rick’s parents wont have their child on christmas or his birthday or anything i’ll admit no one will see Linsi again and I am deeply sorry from my heart but we won’t see Rick again unless we see him in prison. We won’t see him on the roads or at home or in school. His sister won’t have her brother to talk to when her parents are annoying her. So please don’t get argumentitive over this comment i am not trying to start anything. And i am sorry for your town and the ones who were close. It hurts to lose a loved one.

  70. April 18, 2006 at 10:41 pm

    Thank you Christine for your apology. It is understandable that right after it happened, both sides were upset and highly charged. Yes, it does hurt no matter how you lose a loved one. But especially if you know you will never get a chance to see them again. But it is important that everyone realizes that no friends were involved in this. And that the person who admitted to doing the shooting will be going to trial. Nothing that anyone’s friend’s say or do will change that. The only way anyone’s words will affect that, is if they testify at the trial. And if they have creditable info they should make that known.

  71. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    April 19, 2006 at 6:22 pm

    Linsi always came to me when she had problems. When something was wrong with Linsi, I was the first person in this town to know. I truly believe that Linsi wants all of us to help her and her family out. I know lots of the time Linsi tried to figure her problems out on her own, but there were times she came to me to ask for advice. I believe that this is one of those times that I should be helping her. I’m am trying my hardest to understand where all of you are coming from. I honestly do feel terrible that his family will not be allowed to see him for Christmas and his birthday and everything like that. It upsets me though that no one really thinks about what we will go through on those holidays. Instead of going to a prison, we will be going to the cemetary. I honestly would rather visit the prison, but I have no choice. I’m sorry to all of his family and friends. But just remember that on August 3rd and December 25th, I will be giving my present to a grave. Atleast you are still able to hug and talk to Ricky. Thanks!!

  72. April 19, 2006 at 7:45 pm

    Linsi….(RIP), it is understood what you mean. I lost a brother when he was 20 years old, due to a drunk driver. His name was also Ricky. Three boys died that day, including the driver. They were all kids. And while I hated the driver for a long while, his family and friends had nothing to do with my brother’s death. And yes, the friend’s grieved over the driver’s loss, even as they grieved over my brother’s loss. That has been almost 20 years ago, and I still miss him. So yes, I do understand very well what you are saying.

    Yes, it is understood that Ricky is still alive. And that in prison his parents will still be able to see him and hug him and give him presents. But the truth is, his friend’s will be allowed little contact with him. They will have to follow prison guidelines for visitation. They may have to submit to a search before a visit. They can only visit on certain days, and they must be on the prisoner’s allowed visitor list, before they can visit. They can’t call him. Things will be very different for their relationship with Ricky. Yes, they will know he is still alive there, but the relationship they had with him before is irrevocably changed.
    If an argument with one of his friend’s would bring Linsi back, then I wouldn’t have any problems with letting it happen. But it won’t change anything. And nothing they say will stop his trial. No one here has ever accused Linsi of anything. No one has expressed anything but sorrow over her death.
    Please don’t feel you need to defend Linsi. Allowing them to express their feelings about Ricky, doesn’t change the loss of Linsi, or your feelings about her. They have feelings about what happened also. Aren’t their feelings as valid as yours, even if they are about different issues?
    Does the fact that they hurt, take away from Linsi? No, it doesn’t. And their feelings won’t stop his trial.
    You are entitled to your feelings about Ricky, but they are also entitled to their feelings about Ricky. And the person who is on trial is Ricky, not his friends.
    I can agree with you helping her family. I remember how the visits and letters from my brother’s friend helped my parents. A couple of the friends would write once or twice a year and just let them know they remembered, and they kept my parents updated on what they were doing. And it really meant a lot to my parents. Yes, go to Linsi’s grave. Talk to her, leave her a letter, leave her gifts and show her she is missed. But arguing with his friends will not help Linsi now, nor will it help her family. It just increases the hurt.

  73. Rebecca said,

    May 3, 2006 at 4:50 pm

    I really appreciate David’s comment. I am a close friend to Rick. And I want to let everyone… family, friends of both families that my prayers are with them. I can only say what I know about Rick and what a great friend he has been to me. No one doesn’t know what happened in that room between the two, but the trial will telll. Okay, well here I go… Rick and I dated in the summer of 2004. He was a great guy to me, had flowers at my doorstep first thing in the morning before I left for work, finding a note saying just to let you know I’m think of you. Little stuff like that. Always great with my kids. After the relationship we stayed good friends. He may be in there but he still tries to be there for me as well. I mean, I had surgery the first wk he was arrested he was worried about me, then I was away on a business trip my stuff got stolen, he donated most of his belongings to me. He couldn’t give any kids stuff but yeah. Yeah the robbers ram-sacked my kids room as well. So yes, I am there for Rick when he needs me. Cause I know he would me if I was in a horrible position as he is in. Around Thanksgiving time, Linsi and Rick both came to my home. They seemed very happy. They even went to Canada together. I’m a little bit older but knowing most men young or not, they would never keep in touch if they were in a relationship and I thought that was kool how Linsi would be alright with it. You know how young females could be. But I say if you’re in a relationship you should be able to share friends. So yeah, I thought highly of Linsi for that. When I heard what happened, I couldn’t believe it. It was a very big shock to to me. But I can tell you all one thing if it was an accident, accidents do happen. I know everyone doesn’t want to believe it. But it had happened in my family as well, so I do know how it feels. For Rick, I will always be there for him. Believe me, he does mourn for Linsi. I have read all the blogs this and that.. some were very nasty. But in the justice system for all our anger, do you really want to convict a young man (if an accident) for the rest of his life as well. Also wanted to comment on the white rich kid. Black, white it doesn’t matter, that’s racism. And for the whole spoiled rich kid, yeah his family was wealthy but he always had a job ever since the age 16 and earned everything he was awarded. I think I had said enough. Again, to everyone may prayers are with you.

  74. Christine said,

    May 3, 2006 at 7:08 pm

    I totally and completely agree with rebecca. The whole white little rich kid was a horrible thing to say. He was wealthy yes, but he did always have a job. His parents didn’t give him alot of money bc they wanted him to earn it on his own. I totally agree with David too. Both families and friends are in my thoughts and prayers and please with anything said in here don’t take it any way once so ever. It is just an opinion and i don’t want to start any fights in here for we get to state our opinions and only b/c of this site.

  75. cat said,

    May 4, 2006 at 12:04 am

    thank u home sweet home for having a very unbiased blog. I believe u have been very fair. I have alot to say but the most important thing I want people to know is how sorry I am for both families. This horrible tragedy has changed the lives of both families. Of course people know the Light family is mourning the loss of Linsi and i can’t imagine their pain, however what people fail to realize is that Ricky’s parents and sister are devastated by Linsi’s death. The Wegmann’s being the kind and God loving people they are will NEVER get over Linsi’s death. In a different situation they’d be the first to offer help, prayer and a shoulder to lean on for Linsi’s family BUT, they are silenced till the ending of the trial. I believe there is no right or wrong for the families or friends of both Linsi and Ricky to act. How is one supposed to feel, act, live after something so unbelievable happens? What is NORMAL? will there be anything left in the souls of all those involved to go on? Please do not judge Ricky’s family NOONE deserves to go through any of this and please pray for Linsi’s family and Ricky’s family they both need all of us. thank you

  76. May 4, 2006 at 1:08 am

    You all are being nice and polite. I can handle that. You seem to get upset about the “spoiled white kid” comments. I know you don’t understand those. I think those are born out of fear. They have lost Linsi, due to a shooting. They fear that the system will be bought off. They fear that Ricky will get off without punishment, or with only a token punishment because of the parents influence. I can understand that fear. But I I do have faith in the system.
    Ricky will go to trial. All the evidence will be seen and the witnesses heard. And a determination will be made based on that, not on the parents and not on the money and not on the rumors.
    That is not to say that everyone will be happy after court.
    Ricky’s friends may be upset over the time he gets. Some may see it as too long. They will think of how it will affect them and that will make them unhappy.
    Linsi’s friends will think of the fact that they will never see Linsi again. They will know that not only will Ricky live, he will possibly get out someday and be able to resume a relationship with his friends. It might be different, but it will be possible. That is a possibility they won’t have and they know it.
    Rebecca mentioned about what a good friend Ricky has been. From everything I have read, Linsi was much the same way.
    And that is the main difference here. Where Ricky will someday possibly come home, Linsi never will. Linsi will never be there for them to laugh with, cry with or be there to help them.
    Part of being an adult is that we all have to held accountable for our actions. And if our actions mean we break a law, we have to face a judgement of our peers. The jury won’t be friends or relatives. They are supposed to be impartial. And most likely the sentence they hand down will be somewhere in between what the two sides want.

  77. accident? said,

    May 6, 2006 at 10:45 pm

    I read this and I don’t post often. But accident? Ricks friends are way to blinded. Its so damn funny to even hear anyone say it was an accident. Rick really was quite a piece of work… and thats ALL I have to say.

  78. karen said,

    May 8, 2006 at 1:32 pm

    First let me start by saying that years ago Ricky’s mother was my sister in law…….they are not the rich family everyone is saying. They were comfortable in life but worked hard to get it. Do you think that they would let their son stay in jail if they had the means to get him out? I also know that they loved their 2 children and am sure they gave them all they could but also tried to instill value into their life. I am not saying what Ricky did was right…..i have two daughters myself….and cant imagine what the Light family must be going threw….my heart and prayers go out to them. But so much i have read has made his family look like he was a spoiled brat…..you would have to know his family to know that what all is being said is not true. He came from a loving family and sometimes the parents get blamed for what their kids do….they are also suffering in more ways that anyone will ever know. I know that they did not raise their son to do something like this and for the press and everyone to make them out to be something that they are not is just not fair.There are so many victims in this case that maybe people should put themselves in both sides of the family. Ricky’s family is suffering too…..not just for Ricky but for Linsi and her family. They are the kind of parents that only want what is right and a fair trial for their son. I dont know what happened that day and i am sure no one else does either. So please dont make his parents people that they are not. As for the “dream team” of lawyers….they only want a fair trial for their son. What do you think they will have left after the trail? Their family has been torn apart also. I pray for them and for the Light family….there can be nothing worse than losing a child. Let the court take its course and wait for the facts. I am only telling you of his family. They are suffering also. This was their only son and to not be able to get him out of jail should tell you they are not the RICH family everyone is saying they are. Also to know that he has done this awful thing has torn them apart. If you dont know them then dont put the blame on them! I am not making light of the fact that a young girls life was taken but hear the facts first and get them right. I know that Ricky was not abused as a child and was loved as a son. Please dont cast stones at them. May Linsi’s parents find the peace they need and remember her as a daughter they loved.

  79. Rebecca said,

    May 8, 2006 at 4:26 pm

    I agree with Karen. Thank you.

  80. Cheryl (Linsi's cousin) said,

    May 17, 2006 at 6:17 am

    I thank each of your for your kind thoughts of Linsi an hopefully she made each of you feel a little more secial. As far as her killer goes, its it Gods hand he’S the justification of the legal sytem now. Thats where we must focus our energy now!. Keep he meomory of Linsi going throughout the trial and recruit people to stand up on her behalf and and let your voices be heard for hers CAN NO LONGER BEHEARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HELP MAKE JUSTICE FAIR FOR LINSI WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Linsi’s family is praying for this boy and his family. The ONE thing you must remember from this; Linsis mother had to bury her daughter without seeing your face. No finnally kiss, stroke of the hair, rubbing of the cheek……….THAT MY DEAR YOUNG FRIENDS is somsething NO MOTHER SHOULD HAVE TO EVER ENDURE……so pray, lots of pray and follow God and leard to enjoy life at slower place! Much love!

  81. STOP THE MADNESS said,

    May 17, 2006 at 7:08 am

    I can only speak for Linsis side of the family, but they feel no ill-will toward the parents of their son.Yes, their pain towrds their son, put not hate.Their Christians and their faith will crry them thru.So for all you bickering back and forth find a product way to reach out in your community to help out. Volunteer at the abuse lines, become a voluneer EMT, worki with the self defense classes…….do somethink in the name of LINSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Best of luck to all of you and God Bless!

  82. Megan said,

    May 18, 2006 at 12:50 am

    This is very simple. I don’t know the whole story but how can anyone, even Rickys family think this was an accident. Rick HATED Cory, really despised him, when Linsi went back to him it made Rick so pissed he shot her. How is it that the day after Linsi and Cory go back out that she is killed by the extremly possesive and jelous Richard Wegmann? I am not from Ohio and don’t know personally anyone involved but it’s obvious what happened. And there is much more y’all don’t know that I am sure will come out in the trial. Until then just rmember that Rick is a drug dealer and assualted a cop, how good of a person was he ever?

  83. Christine said,

    May 18, 2006 at 3:38 pm

    Ok you dont know anyone involved in this case and everyone in here either knew ricky or knew linsi so you should stay out of it. We are all grieving and all of us are trying to understand eachother’s side but you come in here and start to argue when your not even close to one side or the other. You have a right to an opinion but don’t voice it so meanly in here. It took us a while to get along and now we finally are don’t ruin that with your opinion even though you don’t know either family. You don’t know the facts so dont say drug dealer he is being accused of one but no one in here knows for a fact he was one. When he assulted a police officer he was young and didn’t understand right from wrong. Please don’t come in here voicing an opinion when you have know idea what your talking about. We are getting along and this is finally a good place to let our feelings out with out people like you who don’t know anything about this situation except what you have read and try to start stuff. Please don’t come back unless you can be kind.

  84. Karen said,

    May 20, 2006 at 11:19 pm

    I agree with Cheryl…….no parent should have to bury their child. I have 3 children and cant and dont want to imagine something so awful! I am also a Christian and pray for both families everyday. I pray for Ricky also…..he will have to live the rest of his life knowing he has taken a life. I dont think he is the monster that is being written about him, i only hope he can find peace within himself too. So many people are hurting on both sides that it is hard to not get angry. I have a son too……and no matter what, i would always love him. Maybe not what he did but as a parent. Step back and try and put yourself in both sides and when you can get to that point then maybe some of the anger will turn to sorrow for both families. Ricky has a sister….how do you think she is facing people? Can she help what has happened? No……no more than Ricky’s family can. I know Linsi’s parents are torn apart and so are Ricky’s. They will never see the daughter they raised to be the person she was or would become…..neither will Ricky’s. So please until you can cast the first stone try to find something that will begin to heal the pain. We are on this earth but for a short time…some shorter than others….so pray that Linsi’s family can get threw this the same as Ricky’s. My heart goes out to both and my prayers are with all that knew Ricky or Linsi. Don’t let hate spoil your memory of Linsi. I know that Ricky’s parents would take the moment back if they could. He will stand before his peers at the trial and then to God. Who do you answer to? No matter how all this comes out many lives are never going to be the same. Make no judgement upon others until you walk in their shoes. Pray for both families.

  85. Me said,

    May 20, 2006 at 11:41 pm

    What? Rick did this to himself. It’s his own fault his parents cannot watch him grow up. (not that he ever would have). He controlled his own actions, and it all has to do with how your raised. Sure maybe he is just plain crazy by genetics, witch his parents could not control…. BUT Linsi’s situation is different, she didn’t do the wrong thing. Sure I feel sorry for Ricks parents that they raised a monster, but he brought all of this on himself when he pulled the tigger. I don’t feel bad that his parents or anyone will not get to see him again, it’s just what people like that deserve, it’s how justice works. I don’t feel bad that his room for the rest of his life is a cell and that he had to face other criminals who also murdered and sold drugs and assulted cops, he is one of them, it is were people like that belong.

  86. May 21, 2006 at 12:21 am

    I would like to interject something here. First of all, emotions don't listen to logic. What the heart wants, it wants. So yes, parents will hurt when their child gets in trouble. No matter how they feel about what the trouble is. Pain, grief and other feelings cannot be controlled by thinking.

    Second, what the kid learns at home and genetics have little to do with it.
    Any parent of an adult child, will most likely have been disappointed by a child doing something they have been taught not to do, at least once, usually multiple times. It may have been a small thing- but "why would you do that, what were you thinking?" will pop into every parents mind at least once in a child's life. Usually it is a small thing, but sometimes it is major. And the older the child, the less control the parent has over them.

  87. grant said,

    August 15, 2006 at 11:38 pm

    just came upon this page, little late but there still commotion going around. first of all cory has been in our group of 7 or 8 close friends since he moved to ottawa. In fact before he moved here my dad was his principal. I would just like to say that he is one of the most caring, trusting, and passive (not always a good thing) people that i know. Im sorry i didnt take the time to read the comments, to much bickering among parties. But to make a long story short and because you said that you didnt know details, cory and linsi had been halfway living with eachother for a little while, and so as a major step in a relationship they decided to take a break and see other people. cory went his way and she went to weggman, although they still kept in close contact. and so the story that you know picks up from there. I was stationed 1800 miles away and found out about her funeral about 14 hours before it happend and was ready to spend every dime i had to get there, AWOL or not. I didnt know weggman, i did know cory and linsi very well. I do know that weggman killed her point blank, back of the head, face down on the ground (as what i was told, subject to be proven wrong). To sum it all up i cant say weggman is a horrible person although it hurts to say that, as i have killed to in iraq, although thoughtless/recklessness vs. an objective i believe are two different things. I know cory is a good person, and he has moved 15 hours away from his hometown to get away from the drama, as well as the P.I.’s stalking him that weggmans family hired (proven). I cant see why a family would hire a PI to investigate an obvious murder? anyways, ill get off my pedistool. thanks

  88. August 15, 2006 at 11:47 pm

    Grant, I want to tell you something. I want to personally thank you for your service, and your contribution to the country. Even when you believe in the objective, I know it can be scary and a long way from home and life as you know it. So I thank you for your sacrifices and your willness to contribute.

  89. September 27, 2006 at 10:17 pm

    Today has been a really hard day for all of you. Many are likely feeling the same way you felt the day you found out. Many are learning details you maybe didn’t know or didn’t believe. I know it is painful for all.
    Hang in there, it will soon be over. It likely seems surreal to be sitting in a formal courtroom and hearing the details, but there is something that you must keep forefront in your mind. It happened but for Linsi it is over, she cannot feel pain now.
    My thoughts are with you all.

  90. Nicole said,

    September 28, 2006 at 3:27 pm

    I knew Linsi and Cory too. I didn’t know Ricky, thank God. I feel sorry for Ricky I really do, but I do think he is guilty as sin. Granted he is young and he doesn’t have the mental capacity that adults do, but lots of teenagers get mad and lots of teenager lose significant others, BUT THEY DON”T KILL PEOPLE. If it was an accident why didn’t he call for help right away? Why did he wait? Why did he move her body? Why did he try to clean it up? I am sure he WAS a nice kid, I am sure his parents are good people and I don’t blame them for standing by him, but for once can we NOT forget about the victim. Linsi is DEAD forever and Ricky did it!!!!!!!!!! Ricky messed up big and he deserves jail and everything that comes with it.

  91. Christine said,

    September 29, 2006 at 2:44 am

    Nicole I agree with you. Linsi was the victim and im sorry she was put in such a horrible situation. I did know ricky very well and we used to hang out almost every day a few years ago. He was a good person his family is very nice and they are good people. Ricky does deserve anything he gets b/c he took someones life whom didnt deserve to go for she just didnt want him anymore and he went hay wire. Thankyou so much for actually being the first person to understand where we are coming from since we knew ricky. I am truely sorry about your loss of such a beautiful person. She will be greatly missed but always remembered.

  92. Kelli Wynn said,

    September 30, 2006 at 10:17 pm

    Hello all,

    First, I’d like to give my condolences to both the Light family and the Wegmann family.
    If you have not already heard, Richard Wegmann was convicted of Linsi Light’s murder today in Allen County, according to the Associated Press.

    The Dayton Daily News will be publishing a brief story in Sunday’s edition.

    If you are a family member or close friend of Wegmann or Light, we welcome your comments. I understand that this is a very difficult time and you might not want to speak, but we just want to give you the opportunity if you desire to do so.

    You can contact me at (937) 225-2414 or kwynn@daytondailynews.com.

    Thank you for your attention.

    Sincerely,

    Kelli Wynn
    Crime Reporter
    Dayton Daily News

  93. Jason said,

    October 1, 2006 at 4:28 am

    It’s really good to see an outcome like this. Richard, it seems like always got what he wanted and his parents bought his way out of stuff. Five lawyers couldn’t hide the truth and now he will be in jail for a long time. He was an evil young man. May Linsi’s family and friends rest easier tonight knowing that this monster will not be on the street for a long time.

  94. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    October 1, 2006 at 5:50 pm

    Guilty. I was at the trial and was so relieved when I heard that word. It’s hard for all, I know. I was at the trial and saw Rick. It upset me his lack of emotions and not even saying anything when the judge asked him to. I have known and hung out with Linsi since I was in preschool. She will never be forgotten in Montpelier. She’s still our queen.

  95. sad said,

    October 2, 2006 at 1:33 pm

    do not forget people show emotions different ways some in private some out in the open, all of the opinions were already formed of rick, had he cried, all would of said he was putting on. he wasn’t running for an elected office as the prosecutor so there was no need for the theatrics. i think u also saw a lack of emotion when the prosecutor charged at him with his finger so close he could of felt his breath yet there was no flinching although i saw jurors and others flinch. perhaps rick shut himself down completely, people do that when something devastating happens. perhaps all of u or a family member may find yourself in a simililar situation i will be sure to be front and center with my guilty before being proven innocent view in hand.

  96. have fun in jail said,

    October 2, 2006 at 2:02 pm

    Richard showed NO emotion. Like the prosucuter and Linsi’s dad said. He actually probably thought he was going to get away with murder. He always got away with everything. He did not feel remorse for this at all. He was not sorry. When asked if he would like to make a statement after he was found guilty he just said no. Why not sorry? Anything at all. He could of even maintained his False Story that is was an accident. Just say sorry.. But he couldn’t. He is not sorry. Richard Wegmann is a messed up person. He was just crazy, in a bad way. He is a killer. He’s locked up for 18 years, hopefully life. Does that make is better for the family and friends. Yes and No. They know that 5 big shot lawyers arent going to get the little “wierdo” off the hook for somthing he finnally needs to take responsibility for. But this doesn’t mean that Linsi is going to be around for those 18 years. It’s part of moving on, not worrying about him being free, getting off the hook because his parents have $$$. Finnally people who say we need to think of his family. Sure they are sad, they lost thier son. But their son is not worth anything. They also need to take responsibility for his actions. Admit he is a bad bad man and that he needs to be in jail. He is not their little boy anymore. They can’t protect him with thier money. He was innocent until proven guilty and he was in fact proven guilty. 12 people without a doubt found him guilty.

  97. Christine said,

    October 3, 2006 at 1:20 am

    ok have fun in jail you are awful for not thinking of his family too i agree with sad how people show emotions differently and this was how ricky always was when he knew he was wrong. You have no idea how he lived you just think you know due to his lawyers and his dad’s financial success. He wasnt spoiled believe me I HUNG OUT WITH HIM EVERYDAY FOR 7 MONTHS! His family is kind and caring and of course they know what he did was bad but if you commited a crime your family would be there for you even though you did something wrong. So please dont be a prick on here. We have all got along and finally seen how both sides feel and you come in here and try to start stuff is wrong. Please if you dont have anything nice to say about someone even though you only know them b/c of something they did (yes he does deserve his sentence he killed a beautiful girl whose life was cut way to short) just dont say anything. His family will also be hurting they wont see their son on christmas on his birthday, any holidays, etc. Linsi’s family finally has closure and i know this was so hard on them but ricky’s family wont have that closure b/c there son will be sitting in jail. His sister will have to tell her kids about him and that will be so hard b/c ricky and hannah were so close. But please just stop saying such mean and hurtful things about his family when you have no idea how they raised their kids. Hannah is a beautiful girl with a modeling career and is going to have a major career as an actress. So obviously it wasnt how they raised their kids. Just please have heart for both families they will both be hurting. And if you cant say anything nice or respectful then please dont come in here. We all get along after months of not understanding each side and now we can each talk about it without causing problems and all your doing is being a jerk and causing hurtful things to people who knew ricky.

  98. October 3, 2006 at 2:39 am

    Everyone talks about trials and how they bring closure. They don’t. First, they bring all the details back again and it hurts. A lot of the feelings that were felt right after Linsi died, have surfaced again. Likely the pain and the anger are back. It is like an open wound that was starting to heal, and suddenly the scar is ripped open again. It will heal again, but you have to allow it time again.
    Have you all considered having your own private ceremony? Maybe everyone get together, go to the grave, tell Linsi what has happened, and talk and share memories and give and take support from each other. Maybe even do a group letter to leave on her grave, telling her what has happened, how you miss her, and how you are doing in your life. Play her favorite songs.
    For Rickey’s friends, maybe get together and share memories, talk about how it has affected you. You also giving and taking support from each other.
    I know it sounds kind of corny, but it does help.
    One caution though. At this time, it might sound good to go drinking. Use caution with that. Drinking will not make you forget or to feel it less. As a matter of fact, drinking at a time like this can make you feel worse. It makes the feelings even more overwhelming. Instead lean on and share with each other. Again, you need to watch over each other, make sure those who need extra support has it.
    You will get through this too, though I know it is hard.

  99. sad said,

    October 3, 2006 at 1:22 pm

    to Home Sweet Home: were u able to be at any part of the trial? just curious

  100. To sad: said,

    October 3, 2006 at 3:12 pm

    Sad, What does this mean?

    “i will be sure to be front and center with my guilty before being proven innocent view in hand”

  101. October 3, 2006 at 6:25 pm

    No, I live too far away from you to be there.

  102. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    October 16, 2006 at 5:19 pm

    It kinda upsets me how everyone keeps mentioning that Ricky’s family won’t see him for holidays and his sister will have to tell her kids about him. HELLO! What’s Kevin going to tell his daughter? Atleast IF Ricky gets out, Hanna’s kids will get to see him. After 18 years, Kevin’s daughter will not see her. I DO feel bad for the family, it has to hurt. Honestly, what does Hannah being a model have anything to do with? Sorry, but let’s stick to what matters. Thanks! And (SAD) I was at the trial….what’s your point?

  103. October 17, 2006 at 2:52 am

    Linsi….(R.I.P.), no disrespect was intended toward Linsi, her family or her friends when people mention what Ricky’s family is going to go through. Yes, what happened to Linsi is much worse. And no, her family will not be reunited with her in 18 years. But Ricky will serve his punishment. His life will no longer be filled with his usual preoccupations. And the ‘good times’ have virtually ended for him. Even when he gets out in 18 years, he will get out with a label and with a strike against him. And through all of it, he will have to live with the knowlege of what he did. He will always have the memory of his last sight of Linsi. In some ways, it doesn’t seem fair that he lives, I know. But in some ways, the price he will pay will be much higher.
    But for family and friends on either side, there are no winners. Neither side caused this, yet both sets of family and friends have suffered and will continue to suffer over this. Both sets have shed tears over this. And both sides through no fault of their own.

  104. karen said,

    October 19, 2006 at 4:57 am

    I agree with homesweethome…….there is no winners in this! Not for Linsi’s family nor for Rickys. Both are paying the price for what happened. Each in their own way. Maybe as some of you get older, you will understand that you dont always want what happens to your kids but you have no control over that when they get older and do things like this but that would not keep you from loving them and being there for them no matter what….its called love for your childred no matter what. They will always be your child and you would always love them…..not for what they did but because they are your childred. I dont think any punishment that Ricky gets will ease the pain for Linsi’s family. I am older and have childred and i to would stand by mine maybe not understanding how it could have happened but knowing they are still my kids. Linsi is gone and her family will grieve for her always….Ricky’s family will also grieve. None of their families lives will ever be the same. I know it is hard for some of you to put yourself in either place but what kind of man will Ricky be if and when he gets out of prison? Do you think putting him with the kind of people that are there would make him a better person? Even at 19yrs old we are not considered even old enough to drink…..he is still a kid to me and i feel that putting him in a population like that will only make things worse. He did take a life and should pay for it……but i still can not see who the winners are here. Maybe my thoughts are only of my kids and its hard to seperate that…..but i would stand by my son no matter what. Doesnt mean i wouldnt forget what he did only that he is still my son. I think as many of you get older and have childred of your own you will come to understand that too. My heart and prayers go out to both families….i also pray that Linsi’s memory lives on in all your lives as a loving daughter and friend. That Ricky can find the strength he will need to face what comes in his life also. Like i said……there is no winners in this…only sorrow for both sides. Both families will pay the price for what happened. Please try to understand what both sides are going threw……you never know what your own kids will do…

  105. Brian said,

    October 27, 2006 at 4:12 pm

    I think you guys are dumb. You probably don’t even know Linsi OR Ricky, stay out of it, you’re immature and drama queens :]

  106. October 27, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    To the contrary Brian, most of the people who have commented here have been at the site since Linsi’s death. Being upset over the death and the circumstances is not immature or drama queens, it is reality. I am satisfied that they know the participating parties. You however only show up months after she died and after the trial, so I am not quite so sure of your relationship.

  107. Linsi....(R.I.P.) said,

    October 27, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    That better not be the Brian I know….Thanks, we do know her. I have known her since kindergarten. Could also tell ya anything about her. So Brian, sorry but this site isn’t for you. We are here to talk about her and show our respects for her, so please stop being like that and just go to a different site if that is all you have to say. Thanks!

  108. Me again said,

    November 1, 2006 at 2:34 pm

    “he is still a kid to me and i feel that putting him in a population like that will only make things worse.”
    Yeah, he probably just should of been sent to his room or grounded from the phone… DUH, he is a MURDERER. he belongs with the other people who killed people, and raped people, and sold drugs, and molested little kids. oh boy will he have fun with his new friends! 😉

  109. Christine said,

    November 3, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    umm your sick…im sorry but we dont need people like you in here saying those kinds of things…she was voicing on how she felt he wasnt a true adult yet…yes i do believe he should belong in prison but “me again”” im sorry but with the little smiley face your just plain sick and i really hope you apologize for that kind a immature behavior in here….thats rude and uncalled for…thanks

  110. karen said,

    November 14, 2006 at 7:23 am

    I would say from the comments from some of you that you are to me still kids! You havent lived long enough to even have kids of your own and dont know what you would do if it was your child in either position. Which one of you would not grieve for your daughter that was killed and which one would not stand by your son if it was him that did such an awful thing? His parents are paying the price for his crime….not just money wise but he also had grandparents, aunts, uncles and friends that love him and i think you miunderstood me. I do think he should pay for what he did to this child. Linsi’s family had to bury their daughter….cant even imagine having to do that and pray i never will. I have contact with Ricky’s family and even if some of you dont want to believe it he is sorry for what he did you have your rights as her friend and maybe family do. But i also know what it has done to his family! Neither family will ever get over any of this…no punishment will bring back Linsi. The pain and emptyness will always be there, a hole will always be in their heart for their lost child. I do know that i have a son that i love dearly but i dont have control over what he does anymore than Ricky’s did. My son is older and married with children of his own but who is to say that something like this couldnt happen to him…..would i still love him….yes…..would i do everything i could for him….yes…but i would also have to face up to the fact that he took another persons life and that my dear people is what some of you cant understand. I have tried to raise him and teach him right from wrong but in the end it is up to him what he does and in the choices he makes in a split second. So i think that until you are put in the position of his family you shouldnt put the blame on them. Ricky did this, not his parents or his sister……at least Linsi’s family can go out and hold their head up high and talk about what a great and beautiful daughter she was……his family cant leave their house. How do you explain to anyone what your son did? They bare the burdon of this everyday. Sure they can still see their son for 20 minutes on some Saturdays and Linsi’s parent will never see their loving daughter again. They only have a grave site to visit. Sometimes i think that seeing him like that is almost as bad. You go threw the motions of trying to live and go on and like all good parents they go to see him. Their pain is just as hurtful because they know what he has done. As time goes by and some of you go threw life with your children remember that their choices are theirs not yours. You just cant stop loving your child no matter what they have done…..its not that you think they didnt do anything wrong, you only see them as your child…..the baby you raised, not the person that has killed someone. I pray that nothing happens in your life like it has to both these families. I have learned in my life to forgive….maybe not forget….but to forgive. I hope that as your pain heals that you will forgive also, not forget but learn from what all that has happened that it could happen in any family, rich or poor. Above all i hope that you understand that you have choices in your life and think of the outcome of them. What it does to your families, friends and how it will effect everyone around you. Linsi left a family also, people that will grieve for her as Ricky’s do him. It’s so painful that Linsi’s life was cut so short from what Ricky has done but there is someone higher up that he will answer to……he has answered to the courts and will now answer to God. What i just cant understand is how so many of you want to put such blame on his parents. I know they didnt raise their son to take a life and to end his in a different way. No one is perfect and there is no handbook in raising kids and we make mistakes along the way but i dont think anything they did ever prepared them for what lays ahead for their son.

  111. Christine said,

    November 21, 2006 at 5:21 pm

    Karen I thank you so much for you comment. It really meant alot considering I was very close to Ricky for a long time and I go to the same school as his sister. I knew his family and they are such good people. It is not how they raised their child and that is obvious b/c of how great his sister turned out. she is a gorgeous young women full of her hopes and dreams. So no one can put the blame on the parents for supporting their child and for how they raised their child. Thank you again Karen.

  112. An_old_friend said,

    November 23, 2006 at 6:25 pm

    His parents bought 5 laywers who tried every tactic in the book to get thier “little ricky” off the hook. It sick. It’s not what they did to raise him. It is what they did after he broke into Linsi’s home, stole her gun and came back and shot her in the face. They tried to make it so he could just walk around town, eat mcdonalds, go to the mall.. get a girlfriend.. maybe get mad again and shoot her.. Your son is guilty, you dont try to “buy his way free” Literally. No matter how much you love him. Common FIVE laywers.. seriously, give me a break.

    That being said, hopefully you raised your son better than Richard. He was spoiled. Had everything he wanted. When he couldn’t have Linsi, he killed her. The prosecuter said it best when he charged Richard pointing his finger at him.

  113. November 23, 2006 at 9:20 pm

    There is one thing I have to say for you all. Right after it happened, there were some really angry people, so angry they were having trouble dealing with the pain they felt. You all have come a long way. You came to some understanding of how each other’s friends and family must feel, some understanding that though both were hurting over different things, both were hurting. And you were learing to deal with the hurt and anger.
    There was a comment made about kids. Yes, many acted like kids. Many were kids- kids who had lost someone they cared for, something many of them had never dealt with before. And they didn’t just lose her, they lost her at the hands of another person. So I would say their anger was pretty understandable.
    But some are angry over the type of defense team that was assembled. As a parent I would have to say that if my child ever put me in that position- I would try to assemble the best defense that I could afford. I wouldn’t be happy about it, and what I said to my child privately might not even be printable. But at the same time I would want my child to have the fairest trial that he/she could. That is what a parent does, stands with their kids….even when they, the parents are also hurting inside.
    Ricky went to trial. And despite the 5 attorney defense team, was found guilty and sentenced to prison. Despite the 5 attorney defense team, I am not seeing any complaints that the trial was unfairly biased. They did their job, the prosecution did their job, the evidence was heard, a judgement arrived at and a sentence given.
    Is anybody happy? No. Despite what they say, there is no such thing as closure. Linsi is still gone, Ricky is in prison. There is nothing to be happy about, for anyone. But with the trial over, now everyone has to face the pain and loss. Time will help. It doesn’t make it go away, but it makes it easier to live with. The time will come when you can face those memories and look forward to them. When you can smile about things said or done in the past. A time when you can look at a picture without tears. That is as close to closure as you can get, and it will come.

  114. karen said,

    December 8, 2006 at 6:10 pm

    I do hope i raised my son to the best of my ability and i have 7 grandchildren, but no matter how i raised him, he will choose his own fate. The same as my grandchildren. Its not a matter of how you raise them, its the choices THEY make. That i have learned as a parent. When you have kids of your own you will see that no matter what they have done, you will stand by them. You will get the best defense you can and it doesnt matter if its 1 lawyer or 10. That is what Ricky family did. They wanted a fair trail for their son. I dont think any of you would do any different given the choice. But i know most of you dont have kids so you wont know that till you do. How many of you can put the blame on Ricky’s parent i just dont understand. There is a killing much to often, do you blame other parents for what their children do or is it just that this hits so close to home and you knew the victim? How many of you that are so intent on putting the blame on Ricky’s parents really know them? You may have known Ricky but doubt you knew them. Why should Hanna pay for the actions of her brother? Why should his parents be going threw this? BECAUSE of what Ricky did, Not because of something they did! It was Ricky’s choices that took Linsi’s life and left her parents and friends to grieve for her. But putting the blame on his family doesnt bring her back or change what happened. If it was one of my daughters i am sure i would feel the same as all of you do but i wouldnt blame the persons family for doing all they could to make sure there was a fair trial. And most of all i would try to understand what it has done to both families. Maybe it comes from being a parent or my age and things i have seen and been threw in my life. I dont misunderstand your feeling of wanting to put the blame someplace but put it where it should be….on Ricky..not his family. I didnt attend the trial…i live in another state…but was in contact with family as to what was going on. Both sides will always say and do what will help their case, but in the end no one is going to understand what the other is feeling. I pray for Linsi’s family as much as i do Ricky’s. I hope both can find some peace to let them go on. I dont try to know what Linsi’s family and friends are going threw, only that they will not understand any of it and why it had to happen to Linsi and miss her dearly. That said, i do know what Ricky’s family and friends are going threw and its not something i would ever want to go threw. PLEASE dont blame Hanna or her parents for Ricky’s actions. They are human too and have feelings and have to face what he has done and are paying the price. The holidays will be hard on both families. Linsi and Ricky will both be missing either threw actions they took or actions of another person. Pray for BOTH families.

  115. karen said,

    December 8, 2006 at 8:16 pm

    To Christine and all of Ricky’s friends…..plus friends of Linsi’s……

    As a parent i know how much it would mean to their families to just drop them a card or note to let them know they are not forgotten. As the holidays near both are going threw grieving of their own and i know it would mean so much to them just to hear that they are not alone. That there are people that loved and cared for both of them. I am sure they are feeling cut off from the world right now. To Ricky’s friends…….they need to know of the good times before all this happened and that you remember them. To Linsi’s friends….tell her family how much she meant to you and that she will be missed always, remember the good times not just the bad. Her family as Ricky’s will need to hear that. It’s going to be hard to get threw this time of year and many days to come……least we not forget either family. I know i will be sending a card to both Ricky and his family. Maybe both sides should do the same for the family.

  116. cg said,

    January 9, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    dear home sweet home, in reference to your comments on Nov. 23, 2006 I would like to share my opinion with you off the board, is that possible? thank you

  117. January 9, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    My email addy is on the left.

  118. Mike said,

    February 11, 2007 at 4:33 am

    This is going to come off entirely bias and as ‘hatred’ because i’ve read the all the posts here, and there seems to be a common theme of “oh you dont know him, he was a good person” and “don’t you care for the family at all?! they lost a son”.
    A majority of you fail to realize that the kid performed the crime, and now he’s going to get the time.. although not what he deserves.
    There are too many liberals in here who think his family needs help through this, a little discipline or a good beating may have prevented this. Eye for an eye, should have put the (edited) out of everyone’s misery.

  119. Christine said,

    February 21, 2007 at 12:32 am

    mike, dont come in here and start saying mean things please, we have all started to realize eachother’s views….you didnt know who ricky was at all…yes he did a horrible thing to someone who should have never died that way and yes he deserves everything he gets for the pain he has put linsi’s family and friends through…but his family is also going to be suffering….his parents did discipline him whenever he was out of line believe me i was there a few times…dont go political on this site either please there is no need for that. His parents did lose their son, they won’t get to spend more than an hour with him a week and yes that is better than never seeing him but it is hard on them too. Plus I go to school with his sister and it is hard on her to face the facts too. So please dont come in here critizing everything ok? thanks 🙂

  120. Linsi's Dad said,

    February 22, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    Christine, you don’t have a clue. He put his family through allot. I agree with that. But that’s nothing compared to what he put me and my family through. What Rick did, his family did and didn’t do. I don’t think they even understand. Or they would have never sent me the letters and picture! You come down on Mike and only see a little piece of the picture. I’ve sat back and read all this over the last year without comment and what you said is BULL. You feel Mike shouldn’t have made that comment. That what he said just stirred thing up. I think Mike had every right to speak his mine and you have no right to tell him otherwise. If you don’t like it just keep your mouth shut and you wouldn’t stir up any more people. Me for one! It took a comment from you to get me to write this. Just try to tell me I don’t have the right to speak my mind!

  121. Brenda said,

    June 14, 2007 at 8:32 pm

    It’s absolutely certain that “two people died” and left many to mourn them both. For Weggman is actually dead now, only difference is he is alive enough to feel pain and he’ll most likely face a lot of that in prison if not DEATH !!

    Sounds like he had some anger management problems that those close to him did not realize and that he probably needed therapy at a very young age.

    I don’t know either party or any of their families and I’m sure for a long time I’d be angry at someone for taking a loved one away from me – thats a given fact for anybody. When acceptance comes it will be a relief – a sad one but a relief to turn loose of any hurt and anger that holds a person hostage in this situation to where their life is empty and void also.

    Bless both families and all people who loved both parties involved.

  122. Cory said,

    June 17, 2007 at 5:38 am

    Thanks for your kind words. I agree that Ricks problems should of maybe been diagnosed sooner. His family and friends looked passed them though. His parents spoiling him even. I want to be through blaming other people but it’s still hard for me. Maybe his parents truly did not know he was a monster. Maybe they were to close to the situation and just thought giving him everything he ever wanted would make him happy. Although it unfortunately made things terrible when he wanted what he couldn’t get, and what couldn’t be bought for him. Maybe we could still have Linsi here if stricter punishment and counseling was involved at a younger age. She was smart enough to realize there was a problem and she tried to get away from him. She was a bright girl. 🙂

  123. April 27, 2008 at 2:53 am

    nice post… I’m sorry to say that I’ve had to see a few of my own family members go through things like this and you’re right… once someone loses control and lets themselves abuse their spouse, they’ll do it again unless they can figure out what made them lose control in the first place. In one case that I know of, it was the woman abusing the man, not the other way around… it usually doesn’t happen like that, but I think it’s important to remember that sometimes women are the ones who are abusers, too

  124. Trey said,

    April 27, 2008 at 3:10 am

    Cory wrote: “Maybe his parents truly did not know he was a monster.” While I do not know the details of the case you speak of, I do understand that it is difficult to admit that our children are flawed, much less dangerous. I think that we sometimes cover our children’s failings because we feel a sense of responsibility as their parents. In that sense, we are protecting ourselves by our denial.

    Other people are completely unqualifed to be parents. They lack the maturity or the mental health or the sense. It is not an elitist position, as the qualities needed to be a good parent are seperate from race or religion or education or social class. I see good and bad parents every week from all walks of life.

    Some of the people who are bad parents are almost completely opposed to any feedback or discussion of their choices. “He is my kid and I will do as I please” they say as if discussing an object instead of a vulnerable child.

    Other people are well meaning, but cannot distinguish between themselves and their children. I was riding in the back seat with a child of one person like that. It was night, and the little girl was enjoying looking at the passing lights. Her mom in the front seat kept reassuring the child. “We will be home soon, you do not have to be afraid much longer” she would say to the child who was perfectly happy ignoring her prattling mother.

    I opened my big mouth and said “Actually she is prefectly happy and content back here. She is not at all afraid of the dark.” The mother grew hostile toward me, raised her voice, and asked me how I dare criticize her as a parent. As her mom’s hostility grew, the child got upset and did begin to cry. “See you made her cry, are you happy?” the mom finished.

    So if it is difficult for us at times to just indentify and seperate our fears from our children’s, it must be terribly difficult to acknowledge that our child is a sadistic murderer.

    Of course, if they are, we should acknowledge it.

    Trey


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